In this Halloween Special Episode of the Active Action Podcast, Dr. Nazif welcomes renowned ghost tour guide and podcaster Nadine Bailey. Nadine shares captivating stories and experiences from her extensive career in the paranormal field. She dives into her popular ghost tours in Edmonton, Alberta, and recounts spine-chilling tales from historic locations like the Walterdale Playhouse and Pembina Hall. The episode concludes with Nadine discussing supernatural events and promoting her podcast 'Haunted Canada'. Listeners will also hear personal ghost stories from both Nadine and the host, adding an extra layer of eerie intrigue to the Halloween session.
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00:01:00 --> 00:01:03 everyone welcome back to another episode of the
00:01:03 --> 00:01:07 activation podcast today is the day of halloween
00:01:07 --> 00:01:11 we're excited to present a spooky episode to
00:01:11 --> 00:01:15 you today we have with us our esteemed guest
00:01:15 --> 00:01:20 nadine bailey i'm sure you have heard of nadine
00:01:20 --> 00:01:23 if you're in edmonton if you're a ghost lover
00:01:24 --> 00:01:27 Just a little bit about Nadine is that she is
00:01:27 --> 00:01:30 an award -winning writer and producer of the
00:01:30 --> 00:01:34 Edmonton Coasters. And she's also worked with
00:01:34 --> 00:01:36 many different other networks over the years,
00:01:36 --> 00:01:39 including the Discovery Channel, Outdoor Life
00:01:39 --> 00:01:43 Network on shows, including Creepy Canada. Nadine
00:01:43 --> 00:01:46 has a podcast called Haunted Canada with Curious
00:01:46 --> 00:01:50 Cast, Undercourse Entertainment. So honored to
00:01:50 --> 00:01:53 have you, Nadine, in this hauling special episode.
00:01:53 --> 00:01:56 How are you doing today? I'm doing well. How
00:01:56 --> 00:01:59 are you? I'm doing wonderful, Nadine. I'm sure
00:01:59 --> 00:02:03 our guests are really excited to hear some bone
00:02:03 --> 00:02:07 -chilling ghost stories. So just wanted to set
00:02:07 --> 00:02:10 the stage and give it all to you. Well, thank
00:02:10 --> 00:02:12 you. I appreciate it. Yeah, so I've been doing
00:02:12 --> 00:02:16 the ghost tours in Edmonton now probably 17,
00:02:16 --> 00:02:19 18 years. Started off doing the ghost tours in
00:02:19 --> 00:02:22 Old Strathcona. That one became so popular. that
00:02:22 --> 00:02:25 i just started to add other tours and right now
00:02:25 --> 00:02:27 i offer six different tours in the amazon area
00:02:27 --> 00:02:30 we do the ghost tours of old strathcona the university
00:02:30 --> 00:02:35 of belfry ghost tours in the summer time we do
00:02:35 --> 00:02:39 historical tours cemetery tours haunted pub tours
00:02:39 --> 00:02:42 lots of tours and then over the halloween season
00:02:42 --> 00:02:44 i also add the haunted trolley tour over the
00:02:44 --> 00:02:48 high level bridge so there's always a wide array
00:02:48 --> 00:02:51 of ghosts and hauntings and murders and mysteries
00:02:52 --> 00:02:54 to draw on when I'm doing all those stories.
00:02:54 --> 00:02:58 It started out as just a little passion project
00:02:58 --> 00:03:03 and it just grew and grew and grew to the point
00:03:03 --> 00:03:05 where I was able to make it a full -time job,
00:03:05 --> 00:03:08 which is amazing. Along the way, I've had the
00:03:08 --> 00:03:10 opportunity to work with some amazing networks,
00:03:10 --> 00:03:13 written for different networks as well, contributed
00:03:13 --> 00:03:16 to different stories. About two and a half years
00:03:16 --> 00:03:18 ago, I started a podcast called Haunted Canada.
00:03:19 --> 00:03:23 And it just took off. It just became even more
00:03:23 --> 00:03:26 successful than I could ever imagine. And I joined
00:03:26 --> 00:03:29 a network last year. I joined Curious Cast with
00:03:29 --> 00:03:31 Course Entertainment. That takes the podcast
00:03:31 --> 00:03:33 to a whole other level. And I get to work with
00:03:33 --> 00:03:38 amazing producers and audio people who just help
00:03:38 --> 00:03:41 make it better. And it honestly is a dream come
00:03:41 --> 00:03:44 true. But right now, of course, today is Halloween,
00:03:45 --> 00:03:48 one of my favorite days of the year. And when
00:03:48 --> 00:03:50 we think about Halloween, we think about all
00:03:50 --> 00:03:53 the ghost stories that we have in the area or
00:03:53 --> 00:03:57 in the city. And there's so many, there's so
00:03:57 --> 00:03:59 many wonderful ghost stories that I personally
00:03:59 --> 00:04:02 love. When we think about the tours that I do,
00:04:02 --> 00:04:04 there's so many favorite little spots. One of
00:04:04 --> 00:04:08 my favorite is, of course, the Walterdale Playhouse.
00:04:08 --> 00:04:11 It's in Old Strathcona. And it's one of the first
00:04:11 --> 00:04:14 places we visit on the ghost tours. The Walter
00:04:14 --> 00:04:18 Dare Playhouse goes back to the early 1900s when
00:04:18 --> 00:04:21 it was originally a fire hall for the Strathcona
00:04:21 --> 00:04:24 area when it was just a town. And then over the
00:04:24 --> 00:04:28 years, they built a bigger fire hall. And then
00:04:28 --> 00:04:30 I think it was in the 60s or 70s, it became a
00:04:30 --> 00:04:33 playhouse. So there's lots of actors who act
00:04:33 --> 00:04:36 there now, but they believe that they have their
00:04:36 --> 00:04:39 own resident ghost named Walter, interestingly
00:04:39 --> 00:04:42 enough. They believe that it's an old fireman
00:04:42 --> 00:04:45 who sadly died in the fire hall back in the early
00:04:45 --> 00:04:49 1800s. And it's that fireman spirit that's still
00:04:49 --> 00:04:52 rolling throughout the theater to this day. Staff,
00:04:52 --> 00:04:56 actors, volunteers, they'll often see the ghostly
00:04:56 --> 00:04:59 apparition of a man, an older man, walking throughout
00:04:59 --> 00:05:02 the theater up and down the side staircases.
00:05:02 --> 00:05:04 Actors will catch a glimpse of him out of the
00:05:04 --> 00:05:06 corner of their eye when they're acting on stage.
00:05:06 --> 00:05:09 They'll look to the wings and they'll see a man
00:05:09 --> 00:05:11 standing there that shouldn't be there. It's
00:05:11 --> 00:05:14 always the same. It's an older man, heavy set.
00:05:14 --> 00:05:17 And many believe that it's Walter. Many times
00:05:17 --> 00:05:21 actors will have props vanishing from their tables,
00:05:22 --> 00:05:25 costumes vanishing. One lady told me about an
00:05:25 --> 00:05:29 incident many years ago. when she was getting
00:05:29 --> 00:05:31 ready to perform in a show. She was upstairs
00:05:31 --> 00:05:35 in the old bunkhouse, which is where the fireman
00:05:35 --> 00:05:37 died, and she was getting ready for a show, and
00:05:37 --> 00:05:39 she was wearing a platinum blonde wig for the
00:05:39 --> 00:05:42 show. Her wig was on her table, so she was getting
00:05:42 --> 00:05:45 ready, putting her costume on, putting her dress
00:05:45 --> 00:05:48 on, and when she turned back around to grab the
00:05:48 --> 00:05:51 wig, it was gone from the table. Now it's one
00:05:51 --> 00:05:54 hour to show time. Actors, they searched every
00:05:54 --> 00:05:57 nook and cranny, couldn't find the wig. Five
00:05:57 --> 00:05:59 minutes before showtime, they found it down on
00:05:59 --> 00:06:02 center stage. So, of course, everyone believes
00:06:02 --> 00:06:05 that it's the ghost playing tricks, hiding props,
00:06:05 --> 00:06:08 hiding costume parts. But everybody who works
00:06:08 --> 00:06:10 there, they have a good sense. They don't believe
00:06:10 --> 00:06:11 that it's a mean spirit or anything like that.
00:06:11 --> 00:06:14 It's a friendly spirit. He likes to play tricks.
00:06:14 --> 00:06:16 And the Walterville Playhouse, they've embraced
00:06:16 --> 00:06:22 it, which is really nice to know. That's really
00:06:22 --> 00:06:26 chilling, Nadine. i can relate whenever i have
00:06:26 --> 00:06:29 walked around especially at night in this old
00:06:29 --> 00:06:32 Strathcona area that whole place gives you a
00:06:32 --> 00:06:35 spooky vibe i have been around that place but
00:06:35 --> 00:06:39 i wasn't aware of this event or incident i can
00:06:39 --> 00:06:43 say so now it will be haunting me when i'm walking
00:06:43 --> 00:06:47 in front of that for sure so speaking of ghost
00:06:47 --> 00:06:51 event that takes place in Edmonton At Wonton,
00:06:51 --> 00:06:54 things get really quiet. It's a big city and
00:06:54 --> 00:06:57 it gets really quiet at the time of the night,
00:06:57 --> 00:07:00 especially if it's cold winter night around after
00:07:00 --> 00:07:04 8 or 9 p .m. And that is when I had the opportunity
00:07:04 --> 00:07:08 to attend Nadine's, one of the famous University
00:07:08 --> 00:07:12 of Alberta co -stores. And I myself, being a
00:07:12 --> 00:07:14 student of the University of Alberta, I have
00:07:14 --> 00:07:17 wandered through the halls, through the road.
00:07:17 --> 00:07:20 many times in the night, but after attending
00:07:20 --> 00:07:23 the first coast tour by Nadine, I myself lost
00:07:23 --> 00:07:28 out of the courage to walk alone in some of those
00:07:28 --> 00:07:31 areas. And these are all spectacular stories
00:07:31 --> 00:07:34 that happened in the University of Alberta and
00:07:34 --> 00:07:37 really chilling as well. Great blend of history,
00:07:37 --> 00:07:41 great blend of spookiness. Nadine, can you share
00:07:41 --> 00:07:43 with our audience one of your favorite stories
00:07:43 --> 00:07:47 maybe from the University of Alberta? Sure, not
00:07:47 --> 00:07:51 a problem. The University of Alberta tour started
00:07:51 --> 00:07:55 just out of my love of ghost stories. So I was
00:07:55 --> 00:07:57 doing the ghost tours in Old Strathcona for a
00:07:57 --> 00:08:00 few years, and that one became really popular.
00:08:00 --> 00:08:04 My philosophy has always been, if you do one
00:08:04 --> 00:08:06 tour and people like it that much, they'll come
00:08:06 --> 00:08:09 on all your other tours. I had people come back
00:08:09 --> 00:08:12 on the tour every year. I had my repeat people
00:08:12 --> 00:08:15 come back every year. They bring family. And
00:08:15 --> 00:08:17 it was always... It just always brings such a
00:08:17 --> 00:08:20 warm feeling to my heart because we have this
00:08:20 --> 00:08:22 support of people come back every year. And when
00:08:22 --> 00:08:24 people come back every year, I call them restockers.
00:08:25 --> 00:08:28 It's a funny joke between me and the regulars.
00:08:28 --> 00:08:30 But it's really nice when people come back and
00:08:30 --> 00:08:32 support. I was always looking for ways to diversify.
00:08:32 --> 00:08:36 So I realized the U of A has so many historical
00:08:36 --> 00:08:38 buildings and so many ghost stories as well.
00:08:39 --> 00:08:41 And there's so many there that I've dug up over
00:08:41 --> 00:08:45 the years. I think one of my favorite... is actually
00:08:45 --> 00:08:49 about Pembina Hall. Now, Pembina Hall is a historical
00:08:49 --> 00:08:51 building on campus. It was actually the second
00:08:51 --> 00:08:54 building built on campus. And when it opened,
00:08:54 --> 00:08:57 you had male students on the top floor, female
00:08:57 --> 00:08:59 students on the second floor. The main floor
00:08:59 --> 00:09:02 was used for classrooms and labs, and the bottom
00:09:02 --> 00:09:06 floor was used just as a storage room. And Pembina
00:09:06 --> 00:09:08 Hall, it served many different purposes over
00:09:08 --> 00:09:11 the years. During World War I and World War II,
00:09:12 --> 00:09:16 it was used to house visiting soldiers. Soldiers
00:09:16 --> 00:09:18 would hang out in the area of practice until
00:09:18 --> 00:09:20 they were sent overseas for World War I or World
00:09:20 --> 00:09:24 War II. And then, actually, it was used as a
00:09:24 --> 00:09:26 hospital and a quarantine building many times
00:09:26 --> 00:09:28 throughout history. But the first time it was
00:09:28 --> 00:09:31 ever used as a hospital... was during the Spanish
00:09:31 --> 00:09:34 flu, the influenza epidemic that struck across
00:09:34 --> 00:09:39 Canada from 1918 to 1920. And when the Spanish
00:09:39 --> 00:09:43 flu hit Alberta, hit Edmonton, most people back
00:09:43 --> 00:09:45 in the early 1900s, they put in a lot of strict
00:09:45 --> 00:09:47 rules and regulations. You were required out
00:09:47 --> 00:09:50 in public to wear a white cheesecloth mask or
00:09:50 --> 00:09:52 handkerchief over your face. You were allowed
00:09:52 --> 00:09:54 to have gatherings more than 10 people at a time.
00:09:54 --> 00:09:57 You couldn't shake hands. And they were using
00:09:57 --> 00:10:00 Penn Mental Hall as a hospital. Now, at one point,
00:10:00 --> 00:10:02 they had close to 2 people who were sick
00:10:02 --> 00:10:05 and dying in the hospital, and records show that
00:10:05 --> 00:10:09 about 200 people died in that building, in that
00:10:09 --> 00:10:12 hospital. Now, of course, the sad part is that
00:10:12 --> 00:10:15 even when people died, family members were afraid
00:10:15 --> 00:10:17 to take their bodies because they thought that
00:10:17 --> 00:10:20 even in death, they would contract the Spanish
00:10:20 --> 00:10:23 flu. So what the nurses and the doctors did...
00:10:24 --> 00:10:27 is they would store some of the bodies on the
00:10:27 --> 00:10:30 bottom floor of Pamina Hall on Makeshift Morgue.
00:10:30 --> 00:10:32 Now, eventually, what they do with the bodies,
00:10:33 --> 00:10:34 how do you stop the bodies from decomposing?
00:10:35 --> 00:10:37 So what they would do, because it was wintertime,
00:10:37 --> 00:10:40 the winter of 1918 to 1919, they would leave
00:10:40 --> 00:10:43 the windows open, cold. You know, Alberta air
00:10:43 --> 00:10:45 would come in, keep the bodies preserved a bit.
00:10:46 --> 00:10:48 Plus, there was ice in the North Saskatchewan
00:10:48 --> 00:10:50 River. They'd bring up big blocks of ice. But
00:10:50 --> 00:10:54 then as the spring of 1919 rolled around, temperatures
00:10:54 --> 00:10:57 rose, ice in the river melted, and those bodies
00:10:57 --> 00:10:59 that were stored on the bottom floor, they began
00:10:59 --> 00:11:03 to rot. So eventually, you know, the smell that
00:11:03 --> 00:11:05 was in the building, nurses, doctors couldn't
00:11:05 --> 00:11:07 handle it, gave the government of Alberta an
00:11:07 --> 00:11:09 ultimatum, get rid of the bodies or we're going
00:11:09 --> 00:11:12 to walk out. So eventually the government got
00:11:12 --> 00:11:14 rid of the bodies and they were all buried in
00:11:14 --> 00:11:17 like a massive makeshift grave outside the city.
00:11:17 --> 00:11:20 Because again, you had to protect the city during
00:11:20 --> 00:11:24 the Spanish flu influenza epidemic. but it's
00:11:24 --> 00:11:26 the staff who work in the building now have been
00:11:26 --> 00:11:29 telling me for years that sometimes on hot summer
00:11:29 --> 00:11:32 days they'll still get the smell of rotting corpses
00:11:32 --> 00:11:35 in the building and even otter that staff will
00:11:35 --> 00:11:37 say that when they're working there late at night
00:11:37 --> 00:11:39 early in the mornings that they'll often hear
00:11:39 --> 00:11:42 sounds in the hallway and when they look out
00:11:42 --> 00:11:44 in the hallway they'll see what appears to be
00:11:44 --> 00:11:47 the apparition of men women and children in white
00:11:47 --> 00:11:51 hospital gowns just walking up and down the hallway
00:11:51 --> 00:11:53 Of course, everyone believes that it is the spirits
00:11:53 --> 00:11:56 of the people that died at the Pembina Hospital
00:11:56 --> 00:11:59 during the Spanish flu, the influenza epidemic
00:11:59 --> 00:12:03 that struck across Canada from 1918 to 1920.
00:12:05 --> 00:12:09 Oh, that's really chilling. And when you mention
00:12:09 --> 00:12:12 that the odor has spread around, I can technically
00:12:12 --> 00:12:16 smell that from your saying. And it's indeed,
00:12:16 --> 00:12:18 I was a medical professional and I have had experience
00:12:18 --> 00:12:23 working in the morgues. And that smell is not
00:12:23 --> 00:12:27 pleasant at all. It's not good at all. I have
00:12:27 --> 00:12:29 a friend who worked there a few years ago. And
00:12:29 --> 00:12:32 she said that in the summertime, she couldn't
00:12:32 --> 00:12:34 work in the building. She had to work somewhere
00:12:34 --> 00:12:36 else. Because on the hot summer days, they would
00:12:36 --> 00:12:40 get an odd smell. And it was just really gross.
00:12:40 --> 00:12:42 And they'd work in other buildings in the summertime.
00:12:43 --> 00:12:45 Indeed. I took my forensic medicine education
00:12:45 --> 00:12:49 in that morgue. And you really can't stand that
00:12:49 --> 00:12:52 for a longer time. And imagine hundreds of people,
00:12:52 --> 00:12:55 you know, having piled up how you mentioned,
00:12:55 --> 00:12:58 really spooky. So next time, University of Alberta
00:12:58 --> 00:13:00 students, when you are near the Pembina Hall
00:13:00 --> 00:13:04 at night, make sure to remember that. Check it
00:13:04 --> 00:13:07 out. It's a creepy building. It's a beautiful
00:13:07 --> 00:13:10 building. It's very historical. And we talk about
00:13:10 --> 00:13:13 the history of it as well. But, you know, when
00:13:13 --> 00:13:15 you dig deep enough, you can find these ghost
00:13:15 --> 00:13:17 stories. And over the years. That's the great
00:13:17 --> 00:13:19 thing about doing the tours is that over the
00:13:19 --> 00:13:22 years, a lot of my stories come from, you know,
00:13:22 --> 00:13:24 the archives, digging through the archives, digging
00:13:24 --> 00:13:27 up stories. But my best stories over the years
00:13:27 --> 00:13:29 come from people who have been on my tour and
00:13:29 --> 00:13:32 tell me, hey, I worked there or I used to go
00:13:32 --> 00:13:34 to school there or I lived there. That's how
00:13:34 --> 00:13:38 I get some of my best stories. And it's also
00:13:38 --> 00:13:42 a wonder, Nadine, that there are paranormal or
00:13:42 --> 00:13:45 supernatural things happening around us. even
00:13:45 --> 00:13:48 when we are aware or not aware of it it's just
00:13:48 --> 00:13:51 if we have that conscience to look for those
00:13:51 --> 00:13:55 even in the other day what was happening is that
00:13:55 --> 00:13:59 in the apartment that i live usually it's very
00:13:59 --> 00:14:02 close to the building garbage disposal where
00:14:02 --> 00:14:04 you can throw garbage from each of the floor
00:14:04 --> 00:14:08 and sometimes it's just that when the bangings
00:14:08 --> 00:14:11 happen it literally sounds like someone is knocking
00:14:12 --> 00:14:14 And I can feel like that's a garbage area. Someone
00:14:14 --> 00:14:17 is using that to open the door and using that
00:14:17 --> 00:14:20 garbage chute. Maybe around like two weeks ago,
00:14:20 --> 00:14:23 it was one in the night. I was watching Netflix
00:14:23 --> 00:14:27 and I heard that sound. So I was typically thinking
00:14:27 --> 00:14:30 that maybe someone is using the garbage chute.
00:14:30 --> 00:14:34 But also at that time of night, it's very unusual.
00:14:34 --> 00:14:37 So just for my wonders, I went, I opened the
00:14:37 --> 00:14:42 door and maybe it was like 20 seconds. literally
00:14:42 --> 00:14:45 no apartment can have the distance of going back
00:14:45 --> 00:14:48 and forth in 20 seconds and when i opened the
00:14:48 --> 00:14:51 door literally no one was there first i thought
00:14:51 --> 00:14:55 it might be my hallucination of hearing probably
00:14:55 --> 00:14:58 coming from the netflix but then i went outside
00:14:58 --> 00:15:03 and i saw the door was really shut for the garbage
00:15:03 --> 00:15:07 disposal because when you open it the noise kicks
00:15:07 --> 00:15:09 in so even if someone had opened i would have
00:15:09 --> 00:15:12 heard that It was closed and there was no one
00:15:12 --> 00:15:17 near. So I was really shocked and I didn't make
00:15:17 --> 00:15:20 sense out of it. So there might be things happening
00:15:20 --> 00:15:23 here and there which we are not aware of. I just
00:15:23 --> 00:15:25 wanted to share a quick incident that happened
00:15:25 --> 00:15:29 to me a few days ago. That's great. And people
00:15:29 --> 00:15:31 want to share their stories. You know, it's just
00:15:31 --> 00:15:35 not at Halloween. Not even an hour ago, I just
00:15:35 --> 00:15:40 did. a radio show at cbc in ontario and it was
00:15:40 --> 00:15:42 an hour -long program and people would call them
00:15:42 --> 00:15:45 their stories and at the end of it of course
00:15:45 --> 00:15:47 i mentioned hey if you've got a ghost story if
00:15:47 --> 00:15:50 i've got a parallel experience email it to me
00:15:50 --> 00:15:52 because i can use it on the podcast i can put
00:15:52 --> 00:15:55 it in my book and i mean i i think so far i'm
00:15:55 --> 00:15:58 up to about 40 emails from people who just want
00:15:58 --> 00:16:01 to share their ghost stories so people want it
00:16:01 --> 00:16:03 people have very similar strange experiences
00:16:03 --> 00:16:05 and they want to share them it's all very interesting
00:16:06 --> 00:16:09 Indeed, Nadine. I know you have a wealth of stories
00:16:09 --> 00:16:12 and experience from over the years that you have
00:16:12 --> 00:16:16 done. Can you share a story that you felt was
00:16:16 --> 00:16:20 really haunting? Well, I think one of the most
00:16:20 --> 00:16:22 interesting stories, and I get asked this question
00:16:22 --> 00:16:25 a lot, and this is a story I always tell, and
00:16:25 --> 00:16:28 it's a story from Alberta, but it happened to
00:16:28 --> 00:16:33 my son. Wow. We, when we lived in our previous
00:16:33 --> 00:16:37 house about 15 years ago, my youngest son, Jack,
00:16:37 --> 00:16:41 he was only about four at the time. And when
00:16:41 --> 00:16:44 he was a small child, very, very quiet child.
00:16:44 --> 00:16:47 So one day him and his brother, Matthew, were
00:16:47 --> 00:16:51 down in the rec room playing. This is the period
00:16:51 --> 00:16:53 of when we had the Wii games. So we were downstairs
00:16:53 --> 00:16:55 playing Wii. And my husband and I are upstairs
00:16:55 --> 00:16:59 in the kitchen. And at one point, Jack comes
00:16:59 --> 00:17:01 upstairs. I remember he's four years old. He
00:17:01 --> 00:17:05 comes upstairs, very quiet child. And he says,
00:17:05 --> 00:17:07 he just looks at me and my husband and he says,
00:17:07 --> 00:17:12 I don't want to play downstairs anymore. So we
00:17:12 --> 00:17:14 just figure, well, maybe his broker's picking
00:17:14 --> 00:17:16 up or something, you know, who knows. So I just
00:17:16 --> 00:17:18 say to Jack, I said, well, why don't you want
00:17:18 --> 00:17:22 to play downstairs? And Jack says, because the
00:17:22 --> 00:17:26 man on the pool table keeps staring at me. Oh,
00:17:26 --> 00:17:29 wow. And yeah, my husband was not impressed.
00:17:29 --> 00:17:32 He's like, well, it's on the go. And so I'm like,
00:17:32 --> 00:17:34 okay, let's figure this out. So I take Jack by
00:17:34 --> 00:17:35 the hand. And I'm like, okay, well, let's go
00:17:35 --> 00:17:38 downstairs and check. So we go downstairs. And
00:17:38 --> 00:17:40 when we get to the bottom stair, I've got Jack
00:17:40 --> 00:17:42 by the hand. My other son is still playing. He's
00:17:42 --> 00:17:45 oblivious to it all. And I say to Jack, I was
00:17:45 --> 00:17:47 like, well, do you see the man in the red room?
00:17:47 --> 00:17:50 And Jack says, no. And so I said, well, where
00:17:50 --> 00:17:53 was he? And Jack says he was sitting on top of
00:17:53 --> 00:17:56 the pool table. I was like, okay, well, what
00:17:56 --> 00:17:59 did he look like? And Jack said that he looked
00:17:59 --> 00:18:03 like granddad, his grandfather. But now his grandfather
00:18:03 --> 00:18:06 was still alive at this point. So which meant
00:18:06 --> 00:18:08 that Jack sort of meant that he was an older
00:18:08 --> 00:18:10 man right here. I'm like, okay. I was like, well,
00:18:11 --> 00:18:14 what was the man doing? And Jack says he was
00:18:14 --> 00:18:20 doing this. Oh, wow. And I mean, I even got the
00:18:20 --> 00:18:22 hairs on the back of my neck even stood up. And
00:18:22 --> 00:18:27 I was like, okay. So the kids went upstairs and
00:18:27 --> 00:18:30 you try to rationalize it because you never know
00:18:30 --> 00:18:34 what kids can see stuff. And so I'm like anybody,
00:18:34 --> 00:18:36 I'm a skeptic at heart. I want to see the proof.
00:18:36 --> 00:18:40 I want to see the tangible proof. But still that
00:18:40 --> 00:18:43 night when everyone was gone in bed, I still
00:18:43 --> 00:18:46 went down to the rec room and I said, okay, if
00:18:46 --> 00:18:48 there's anybody here. you're welcome to stay
00:18:48 --> 00:18:51 just don't let my kids see you because they won't
00:18:51 --> 00:18:54 understand and after that day my son never went
00:18:54 --> 00:18:58 downstairs by himself he never saw this man again
00:18:58 --> 00:19:00 or that he told me because again he was only
00:19:00 --> 00:19:03 four years old but i always talk about that story
00:19:03 --> 00:19:06 that was my strangest experience because you
00:19:06 --> 00:19:09 know jack he's jack is 21 now but he was four
00:19:09 --> 00:19:12 at the time he still remembers that story we
00:19:12 --> 00:19:14 don't live in that house anymore and it was brand
00:19:14 --> 00:19:18 new house in a brand new neighborhood. But you
00:19:18 --> 00:19:21 never know what's there, what energy is there.
00:19:21 --> 00:19:26 You just don't know. So I always tell that story.
00:19:26 --> 00:19:29 That's always my creepiest story. Thank you so
00:19:29 --> 00:19:33 much, Nadine, for sharing that. And very chilling
00:19:33 --> 00:19:35 indeed. And for listeners, if you're listening
00:19:35 --> 00:19:38 to the audio of the podcast, the man who was
00:19:38 --> 00:19:41 calling Nadine's four -year -old son was come
00:19:41 --> 00:19:45 to me. That was the hand gesture. That, yeah,
00:19:45 --> 00:19:47 that they were... Little finger like, come here,
00:19:47 --> 00:19:51 come here. Very, very chilling indeed, Nadine.
00:19:51 --> 00:19:54 And it's amazing. Things happen to ourselves.
00:19:54 --> 00:19:58 It's not out there. It's within us. We just have
00:19:58 --> 00:20:01 to have the eyes to look for those signs. Because
00:20:01 --> 00:20:05 paranormal things happen quite often. If it's
00:20:05 --> 00:20:07 okay with you, Nadine, I can just tell a really
00:20:07 --> 00:20:10 quick story that happened in one of the villages
00:20:10 --> 00:20:14 that I have heard. from my uncle who has lived
00:20:14 --> 00:20:19 there all his life is that once he heard someone
00:20:19 --> 00:20:22 because he was a pharmacist over there. So someone
00:20:22 --> 00:20:26 came to his house at two in the morning and said
00:20:26 --> 00:20:30 that my dad is shivering and he is having a frothing
00:20:30 --> 00:20:33 coming out of his mouth. So can you please come
00:20:33 --> 00:20:35 and take a look what's happened? And he quickly
00:20:35 --> 00:20:38 went with him and saw that he was in the shivering.
00:20:38 --> 00:20:41 He didn't have conscious and frothing was coming
00:20:41 --> 00:20:45 out. And he tried to take care of him and make
00:20:45 --> 00:20:47 him stabilized. And when he came back to normal
00:20:47 --> 00:20:51 the next day, my uncle asked, what happened to
00:20:51 --> 00:20:53 you? Why were you acting this way? The frothing
00:20:53 --> 00:20:55 coming out of the mouth, you cannot make that
00:20:55 --> 00:20:58 up until something actually serious happens.
00:20:58 --> 00:21:01 So what he mentioned was he was a bit late from
00:21:01 --> 00:21:04 his work. So he was coming back to his home where
00:21:04 --> 00:21:08 he saw there was in Bangladesh, there is a thing
00:21:08 --> 00:21:12 called a rickshaw puller. so it's kind of you
00:21:12 --> 00:21:16 pedal and you take away some stuffs in a rack
00:21:16 --> 00:21:20 behind that pedal so in that pedal there was
00:21:20 --> 00:21:24 someone who was taking a corpse in white covered
00:21:24 --> 00:21:27 in white covered clothes the surprising thing
00:21:27 --> 00:21:30 was the village was really small so usually everyone
00:21:30 --> 00:21:34 knows everyone in that village he was not able
00:21:34 --> 00:21:36 to recognize either the rickshaw puller or the
00:21:36 --> 00:21:39 person who was who was taking that corpse and
00:21:39 --> 00:21:42 That person actually asked him that, can you
00:21:42 --> 00:21:44 help us? Can you lead us the way out of this
00:21:44 --> 00:21:47 village? We are from another village. And so
00:21:47 --> 00:21:49 he voluntarily helped and he got into that cart
00:21:49 --> 00:21:53 and he was showing him the way out of the village.
00:21:54 --> 00:21:58 Suddenly, what he noticed was beside the corpse,
00:21:58 --> 00:22:02 there were two other men sitting behind. He had
00:22:02 --> 00:22:05 no recollection of the cart pausing and they
00:22:05 --> 00:22:08 getting into the cart. So he didn't understand
00:22:08 --> 00:22:11 where those people came from. And when he turned
00:22:11 --> 00:22:14 around, the person who had asked him to help,
00:22:14 --> 00:22:18 he took his hand and put his head forward and
00:22:18 --> 00:22:20 said, don't look behind, otherwise you'll be
00:22:20 --> 00:22:25 in trouble. And then those people started laughing
00:22:25 --> 00:22:29 who were behind. And suddenly he felt like that
00:22:29 --> 00:22:33 cart was pulling really fast. And there was something
00:22:33 --> 00:22:36 that was not right with the aura around what
00:22:36 --> 00:22:39 was happening. So what he did, he just jumped
00:22:39 --> 00:22:42 out of the cart and started running out of nowhere
00:22:42 --> 00:22:46 in the darkness. The moment he started running,
00:22:46 --> 00:22:49 he saw four or five people laughing on the behind.
00:22:50 --> 00:22:53 And that is when he lost his consciousness and
00:22:53 --> 00:22:56 he can't remember anything. But the people who
00:22:56 --> 00:22:59 find them, it was around two or three hours after
00:22:59 --> 00:23:02 he was lying down unconscious. told them that
00:23:02 --> 00:23:05 he was actually shivering really bad and he took
00:23:05 --> 00:23:08 them home. And tomorrow, the next day, every
00:23:08 --> 00:23:11 villager went outside to see who actually died
00:23:11 --> 00:23:13 in some of the other nearby villages and no one
00:23:13 --> 00:23:16 did. So this is a really chilling story my uncle
00:23:16 --> 00:23:20 told me a few years ago. So still haunts me when
00:23:20 --> 00:23:25 I'm thinking them at night. Yeah. Exactly. Very
00:23:25 --> 00:23:27 creepy. Thank you so much, Nadine. I really appreciate
00:23:27 --> 00:23:30 you coming to this podcast and sharing some of
00:23:30 --> 00:23:33 your experience with our wonderful audience in
00:23:33 --> 00:23:37 the Halloween episode today. Yeah, well, thank
00:23:37 --> 00:23:39 you so much for having me. I really appreciate
00:23:39 --> 00:23:42 it. And if you want to learn more about the ghost
00:23:42 --> 00:23:45 tours of the podcast, you can learn about the
00:23:45 --> 00:23:48 ghost tours. You can visit the website edmontonghosttours
00:23:48 --> 00:23:51 .com. Tours will be happening until about early
00:23:51 --> 00:23:55 next week. But I do have some stuff happening
00:23:55 --> 00:23:58 over the November and December period, indoors,
00:23:58 --> 00:24:01 of course, because it's Alberta. So just follow
00:24:01 --> 00:24:04 me on social media, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook,
00:24:04 --> 00:24:06 whatever, and you can get all those updates.
00:24:06 --> 00:24:09 And also, of course, if you want to listen to
00:24:09 --> 00:24:14 my podcast, Haunted Canada, it's on Spotify,
00:24:14 --> 00:24:17 it's on Apple, it's anywhere, you know, you listen
00:24:17 --> 00:24:20 to podcasts. And season two just dropped two
00:24:20 --> 00:24:23 weeks ago, two and a half weeks ago. And on season
00:24:23 --> 00:24:26 two, I'm actually interviewing people who live
00:24:26 --> 00:24:28 in these haunted places. So not only will you
00:24:28 --> 00:24:30 hear the story, the history, but you'll hear
00:24:30 --> 00:24:33 the firsthand encounters that people have experienced
00:24:33 --> 00:24:37 in these haunted locations. And they're absolutely
00:24:37 --> 00:24:39 fabulous. All the stories are amazing. The first
00:24:39 --> 00:24:43 episode of season two is about mystic men are
00:24:43 --> 00:24:46 just outside of Calgary. And it's an older house.
00:24:46 --> 00:24:49 It was a morgue back in the day. A psychic owns
00:24:49 --> 00:24:55 it. It's such a good story. And you get to hear
00:24:55 --> 00:24:59 these firsthand encounters of all the bizarre
00:24:59 --> 00:25:01 and haunted paranormal things that happen in
00:25:01 --> 00:25:04 that historic home. So yeah, so if listeners
00:25:04 --> 00:25:06 want to have a listen to my podcast and support
00:25:06 --> 00:25:09 and give it a like and give it a follow, of course,
00:25:09 --> 00:25:11 that means the world to me. But thank you so
00:25:11 --> 00:25:14 much for having me. I really appreciate it. Thank
00:25:14 --> 00:25:17 you so much, Nadine, for your time. And there
00:25:17 --> 00:25:20 is one episode I did remember distinctly. in
00:25:20 --> 00:25:22 the season one of the Haunted Canada podcast
00:25:22 --> 00:25:27 is the cold case of Mary Ann. That was so unsettling.
00:25:27 --> 00:25:30 And even to this day, no one knows what actually
00:25:30 --> 00:25:33 happened to Mary Ann. And I really encourage
00:25:33 --> 00:25:36 my listeners to go and check in the Haunted Canada
00:25:36 --> 00:25:39 podcast, especially if you like cold stories
00:25:39 --> 00:25:42 and if you like to hear about the horror, true
00:25:42 --> 00:25:45 crime that things actually does happen in Canada
00:25:45 --> 00:25:48 more often than you think. Thank you so much,
00:25:48 --> 00:25:52 Nadine, again. for your valuable time. I hope
00:25:52 --> 00:25:55 to have you sometime in future as well. Thank
00:25:55 --> 00:25:57 you again. I really appreciate you for having
00:25:57 --> 00:25:59 me in your podcast and keep up the good work.
00:25:59 --> 00:26:03 It's a great podcast and just keep at it. Take
00:26:03 --> 00:26:06 care and I'll talk to you soon. Okay, take care.
00:26:06 --> 00:26:06 Bye.