In this episode of the Active Action Podcast, hosts talk with Razan and Lamia, the Founder/Co-Founder of the InPower social media platform. They discuss the inspiration behind creating a safer and more meaningful online space that promotes personal growth, emotional intelligence, and authentic connections. The conversation delves into the unique features of InPower, including its badge system for guiding user behavior and Mika, an AI assistant designed to provide personalized support. They also explore the importance of empathy, cultural understanding, and the impact of social media on real-life interactions.
What You’ll Learn:
- How the platform is built on emotional intelligence, kindness, and respect to create a safe and caring space for everyone..
- Meet Mika, a smart AI helper trained by real psychologists. Mika supports users in their life journey and helps them grow emotionally.
- Instead of banning people who make mistakes, InPower teaches them how to do better using a special badge system.
- InPower uses a three-step verification process to keep the community safe from fake accounts and online bullies.
- Before launching in any new country, InPower takes time to understand local customs and social values to make sure the platform fits well with different cultures.
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00:00:00 --> 00:00:01 Inpower was created because we saw a need for
00:00:01 --> 00:00:04 something better, a space where people can engage
00:00:04 --> 00:00:08 that fosters growth instead of harm. The internet
00:00:08 --> 00:00:11 is very harsh, and I have fear of being judged
00:00:11 --> 00:00:13 and misunderstood all the time. And that really
00:00:13 --> 00:00:17 kept me from expressing myself truly. I wanted
00:00:17 --> 00:00:19 to find a community of people who weren't there
00:00:19 --> 00:00:22 just to argue, who actually wanted to grow, talk
00:00:22 --> 00:00:23 about their struggles, share their experiences,
00:00:24 --> 00:00:26 and inspire each other to do better. Connection
00:00:26 --> 00:00:30 is what we all crave. But most social media platforms
00:00:30 --> 00:00:33 don't create spaces that actually allow it to
00:00:33 --> 00:00:36 happen in a meaningful way, right? So instead,
00:00:36 --> 00:00:39 we get algorithms just designed to trigger outrage,
00:00:39 --> 00:00:41 highlight division, and keep people engaging
00:00:41 --> 00:00:44 for the wrong reasons. When you stop expecting
00:00:44 --> 00:00:47 and start observing, you'll realize connection
00:00:47 --> 00:00:50 is everywhere. You just have to be open to seeing.
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00:03:09 --> 00:03:12 entrepreneurs Razan and Lamia. Good morning,
00:03:12 --> 00:03:15 Rezan and Lamia. Thank you so much for joining
00:03:15 --> 00:03:17 this podcast. How are you guys doing this morning?
00:03:18 --> 00:03:20 Good. Thank you. Very good. We're excited for
00:03:20 --> 00:03:22 this podcast. Thank you so much for having us.
00:03:23 --> 00:03:26 And Lamia are the founders and co -founders of
00:03:26 --> 00:03:30 the InPower social media platform. And I wanted
00:03:30 --> 00:03:34 to ask you both, can you let us know a bit about
00:03:34 --> 00:03:37 yourselves so that the audience can get connected
00:03:37 --> 00:03:40 and also let us know a little bit. about what
00:03:40 --> 00:03:43 Empower is and how it actually empowers individuals.
00:03:44 --> 00:03:46 Yes, of course. I'll just do a brief introduction
00:03:46 --> 00:03:49 and let Wamia briefly introduce herself and then
00:03:49 --> 00:03:52 I'll talk a little bit about Empower. So I'm
00:03:52 --> 00:03:54 Razan. I'm the founder and CEO of Empower. We
00:03:54 --> 00:03:57 started off as a Facebook group originally for
00:03:57 --> 00:03:59 people looking for a safer space and having a
00:03:59 --> 00:04:01 place where nobody would judge no matter what
00:04:01 --> 00:04:03 you said or did. It started off so small with
00:04:03 --> 00:04:06 such a little mission and it grew so much bigger.
00:04:06 --> 00:04:08 We realized so many people need a safe space
00:04:08 --> 00:04:11 online these days. So we created an app. And
00:04:11 --> 00:04:13 I met Lamia through that journey. She started
00:04:13 --> 00:04:15 off as an intern. I'll let Lamia continue a little
00:04:15 --> 00:04:20 bit more about that. Yeah. So I'm Lamia. I'm
00:04:20 --> 00:04:24 the co -founder and COO of Empower. And I'm from
00:04:24 --> 00:04:28 Bangladesh. But I met Razan through an internship
00:04:28 --> 00:04:31 program. And during that program, of course,
00:04:31 --> 00:04:34 I had been through mental health struggles for
00:04:34 --> 00:04:37 a very long time. And when I met her, it was
00:04:37 --> 00:04:39 a very initial stage where we were just figuring
00:04:39 --> 00:04:43 out and trying to know what she was already doing.
00:04:43 --> 00:04:46 That resonated with my vision in my particular
00:04:46 --> 00:04:49 life. And I felt that, yes, this is the platform
00:04:49 --> 00:04:53 I would join and how I can really help this platform
00:04:53 --> 00:04:56 with. I provided whatever was there in my mind.
00:04:56 --> 00:04:59 And of course, she is a person who really takes
00:04:59 --> 00:05:03 all these advices, those guidance from everyone.
00:05:03 --> 00:05:05 Because she believes that everyone is part of
00:05:05 --> 00:05:08 the movement who believes in the value or the
00:05:08 --> 00:05:12 ethos that we have for in power. And from there
00:05:12 --> 00:05:15 started the journey. And of course, she thought
00:05:15 --> 00:05:18 that I could be the co -founder and the COO.
00:05:18 --> 00:05:22 So I think that's how everything shifted from
00:05:22 --> 00:05:26 my intern. To the co -founder and CEO, of course.
00:05:26 --> 00:05:29 It's wonderful how people can get connected and
00:05:29 --> 00:05:32 even have that confidence and faith to work together
00:05:32 --> 00:05:35 just to develop a new brand new platform from
00:05:35 --> 00:05:38 different parts of the world. So I'm always amazed
00:05:38 --> 00:05:41 to learn these journeys. So wonderful. Can you
00:05:41 --> 00:05:43 let our audiences know a little bit about the
00:05:43 --> 00:05:46 platform that we'll be talking today and how
00:05:46 --> 00:05:49 the idea of that came up? Of course. For those
00:05:49 --> 00:05:52 who don't know, Empower isn't just another social
00:05:52 --> 00:05:55 media platform. It's a space built on healthy
00:05:55 --> 00:05:57 connections, emotional intelligence, and personal
00:05:57 --> 00:06:00 growth. So much of social media today is fueled
00:06:00 --> 00:06:02 by toxicity, division, performative conversations.
00:06:03 --> 00:06:06 People are so quick to cancel, quick to assume,
00:06:06 --> 00:06:09 and slow to actually understand. Empower was
00:06:09 --> 00:06:12 created because we saw a need for something better,
00:06:12 --> 00:06:14 a space where people can engage that fosters
00:06:14 --> 00:06:18 growth instead of harm. Everything you love about
00:06:18 --> 00:06:20 traditional social media today, connection, sharing,
00:06:21 --> 00:06:23 engaging, right? But the difference is you are
00:06:23 --> 00:06:25 surrounded by people who actually are committed
00:06:25 --> 00:06:27 to making it a healthier space and where you
00:06:27 --> 00:06:30 can grow together. So a little bit of the backstory
00:06:30 --> 00:06:32 for me, I just never felt comfortable sharing
00:06:32 --> 00:06:35 online, especially knowing the demographic and
00:06:35 --> 00:06:37 the kind of people that were there. The internet
00:06:37 --> 00:06:40 is very harsh and I have fear of being judged
00:06:40 --> 00:06:43 and misunderstood all the time. And that really
00:06:43 --> 00:06:46 kept me from expressing myself truly. I wanted
00:06:46 --> 00:06:48 to find a community of people who weren't there
00:06:48 --> 00:06:51 just to argue, who actually wanted to grow, talk
00:06:51 --> 00:06:53 about their struggles, share their experiences,
00:06:53 --> 00:06:56 and inspire each other to do better. So we don't
00:06:56 --> 00:06:57 just connect. We're actually an environment where
00:06:57 --> 00:07:00 people feel safe to be vulnerable, learn from
00:07:00 --> 00:07:02 each other in a way that's actually meaningful.
00:07:02 --> 00:07:04 You'll find friendship, healthy discussions,
00:07:05 --> 00:07:07 personal growth tools, and just finding your
00:07:07 --> 00:07:09 people. And if you're looking to find your people,
00:07:09 --> 00:07:13 Empower is that space. And what makes Empower
00:07:13 --> 00:07:16 different from other platforms, I'd like to just
00:07:16 --> 00:07:19 add something in that, is that it's built on
00:07:19 --> 00:07:21 values. Like our values are respect, understanding,
00:07:21 --> 00:07:23 and self -growth. We did not want to create just
00:07:23 --> 00:07:26 another platform where people can just scroll
00:07:26 --> 00:07:29 mindlessly or argue in comment sections that
00:07:29 --> 00:07:31 we see on traditional social media, right? I
00:07:31 --> 00:07:33 think a few days back, I met someone who said
00:07:33 --> 00:07:36 that I like conflict. That's the beauty of social
00:07:36 --> 00:07:40 media. We did not. actually even agree to that
00:07:40 --> 00:07:43 term that yes the conflict should not be there
00:07:43 --> 00:07:46 we want to eradicate that completely possible
00:07:46 --> 00:07:49 at least teach people educate people on that
00:07:49 --> 00:07:51 so we wanted a space where people actually feel
00:07:51 --> 00:07:55 connected seen and supported there should not
00:07:55 --> 00:07:58 be any fake presence or the way they connect
00:07:58 --> 00:08:00 it should not be fake it should be authentic
00:08:00 --> 00:08:03 so here's the reality connection is what we all
00:08:03 --> 00:08:07 crave but most A social media platform don't
00:08:07 --> 00:08:09 create spaces that actually allow it to happen
00:08:09 --> 00:08:12 in a meaningful way, right? So instead, we get
00:08:12 --> 00:08:15 algorithms just designed to trigger outrage,
00:08:15 --> 00:08:17 highlight division, and keep people engaging
00:08:17 --> 00:08:20 for the wrong reasons. In power, it changes that
00:08:20 --> 00:08:22 completely. It's still a social media, but with
00:08:22 --> 00:08:26 a real sense of community, I guess. I think that's
00:08:26 --> 00:08:30 one of the biggest differences from others. And
00:08:30 --> 00:08:32 it's not about being perfect. It's about being
00:08:32 --> 00:08:35 willing to grow. And when you are in a space
00:08:35 --> 00:08:38 where everyone shares their mindset, that connections
00:08:38 --> 00:08:40 you make actually feel real. That, okay, your
00:08:40 --> 00:08:44 values and my values, your beliefs and my beliefs
00:08:44 --> 00:08:47 align together. That's where actually the connection
00:08:47 --> 00:08:50 grow and it feels real. So that's what Empowered
00:08:50 --> 00:08:54 is. And also we built a badge system that reflects
00:08:54 --> 00:08:57 this. It's kind of just moderating content in
00:08:57 --> 00:09:00 a way. that silences people we focus on guiding
00:09:00 --> 00:09:04 conversations towards understanding the idea
00:09:04 --> 00:09:08 is simple if you are open to growing there is
00:09:08 --> 00:09:12 always a space so this is in power actually wonderful
00:09:12 --> 00:09:15 and thank you so much for explaining the platform
00:09:15 --> 00:09:18 in details and i'm sure our audience are hyped
00:09:18 --> 00:09:21 to learn more about that i just wonder looking
00:09:21 --> 00:09:24 back and where there are any moments in your
00:09:24 --> 00:09:27 own lives that pushed you to think differently
00:09:27 --> 00:09:31 about personal growth and community? Yeah, I've
00:09:31 --> 00:09:33 been actually thinking a lot about this. When
00:09:33 --> 00:09:36 we're younger, we act in ways that people don't
00:09:36 --> 00:09:37 understand. We don't even understand. We don't
00:09:37 --> 00:09:40 even have the tools to understand. And I don't
00:09:40 --> 00:09:42 mean just making mistakes. I mean the behaviors
00:09:42 --> 00:09:45 that are reactions to something deeper. For me,
00:09:45 --> 00:09:48 I was acting out. I was young, reckless, getting
00:09:48 --> 00:09:50 into reckless situations, drinking at a young
00:09:50 --> 00:09:53 age, and not because I was some wild kid. But
00:09:53 --> 00:09:56 now looking back, I was struggling. I was depressed.
00:09:56 --> 00:09:59 I was surrounded by toxic environments. I had
00:09:59 --> 00:10:02 undiagnosed ADHD. But when people saw me, they
00:10:02 --> 00:10:04 didn't think, oh, she's trying to cope. They
00:10:04 --> 00:10:07 think she's trouble. And I think that was one
00:10:07 --> 00:10:09 of the biggest problems that we have. We judge
00:10:09 --> 00:10:12 people based on what they do and not why they
00:10:12 --> 00:10:14 do it. We don't look at the patterns, the unspoken
00:10:14 --> 00:10:17 struggles. A lot of people never get the space
00:10:17 --> 00:10:19 to figure that out. And that's something I'm
00:10:19 --> 00:10:21 trying to be more aware of. What's to really
00:10:21 --> 00:10:25 hide someone's actions? I love that Razan said
00:10:25 --> 00:10:28 that because it's something I had to learn to
00:10:28 --> 00:10:32 because, you know, people's action don't always
00:10:32 --> 00:10:34 tell the full story. I used to take things very
00:10:34 --> 00:10:37 personally because I had been struggling with
00:10:37 --> 00:10:39 a lot of things. There were so many people who
00:10:39 --> 00:10:41 acted in a certain way that made me feel that,
00:10:41 --> 00:10:44 OK, you know, what maybe their actions are telling
00:10:44 --> 00:10:46 something. So I would take everything personally.
00:10:46 --> 00:10:49 If someone reacted in a way I didn't expect or
00:10:49 --> 00:10:53 if a friend who didn't show up. for me the way
00:10:53 --> 00:10:56 I would have for them. I saw it as a reflection
00:10:56 --> 00:11:00 of how much they cared. But what I realized is
00:11:00 --> 00:11:02 that not everyone is operating from the same
00:11:02 --> 00:11:05 place. People have different capacities, different
00:11:05 --> 00:11:07 struggles and different ways of showing up. Some
00:11:07 --> 00:11:10 people are very much vocal. Some people are really
00:11:10 --> 00:11:12 introvert. So they show their care in a certain
00:11:12 --> 00:11:15 way. But just because someone can't give you
00:11:15 --> 00:11:17 what you expect does not mean they don't care.
00:11:17 --> 00:11:20 So once I understood that, I stopped expecting
00:11:20 --> 00:11:23 people to be what, I needed them to be or started
00:11:23 --> 00:11:27 appreciating for who they were. And that's why
00:11:27 --> 00:11:30 Empower is so focused on emotional intelligence.
00:11:31 --> 00:11:34 Because once you understand yourself, you can
00:11:34 --> 00:11:36 start changing the way you connect with others.
00:11:36 --> 00:11:39 And after understanding yourself, you take the
00:11:39 --> 00:11:42 time to understand others, their capacity, their
00:11:42 --> 00:11:45 limitations, their experiences. You also start
00:11:45 --> 00:11:48 to understand the way they show up or the way
00:11:48 --> 00:11:51 they behave. And everything. So you begin to
00:11:51 --> 00:11:53 see the love, the care, the support. Don't always
00:11:53 --> 00:11:56 look the same from, it varies from person to
00:11:56 --> 00:11:59 person. Well, some, that's, I think one of the
00:11:59 --> 00:12:02 biggest revelation throughout this journey we
00:12:02 --> 00:12:05 noticed. When you stop expecting and start observing,
00:12:06 --> 00:12:09 you realize connection is everywhere. You just
00:12:09 --> 00:12:12 have to be open to seeing. And that should be
00:12:12 --> 00:12:14 the purpose of social media, to be honest. That
00:12:14 --> 00:12:17 trait is kind of getting rare where all the social
00:12:17 --> 00:12:19 media platforms are filled with toxicity. But
00:12:19 --> 00:12:22 you mentioned, Lamia, about observing one another
00:12:22 --> 00:12:25 and learning from that. Oftentimes when people
00:12:25 --> 00:12:28 use social media, they do that for their pleasure
00:12:28 --> 00:12:31 or for leisure purpose. But there is so much
00:12:31 --> 00:12:33 to learn from it as well. We kind of overlook
00:12:33 --> 00:12:36 that aspect while we are in that platform. If
00:12:36 --> 00:12:38 we can leverage that, there are many opportunities
00:12:38 --> 00:12:42 to learn and grow and support. from one another.
00:12:42 --> 00:12:46 Touching a bit about how Razan mentioned about
00:12:46 --> 00:12:50 ADHD, you mentioned about struggling with undiagnosed
00:12:50 --> 00:12:54 ADHD depression and being judged for your actions
00:12:54 --> 00:12:57 rather than the reasons behind them. How did
00:12:57 --> 00:13:00 you find the right support system change? What
00:13:00 --> 00:13:02 really changed for me was finding spaces through
00:13:02 --> 00:13:05 family and friends and groups online where I
00:13:05 --> 00:13:08 wasn't punished for being, for struggling. I
00:13:08 --> 00:13:10 wasn't punished for struggling, but I was actually
00:13:10 --> 00:13:13 being supported. And people didn't shame me for
00:13:13 --> 00:13:15 that. Instead of counseling people on Empower,
00:13:15 --> 00:13:18 we do exactly that. We provide them the resources
00:13:18 --> 00:13:21 and the tools to help them grow. And that's exactly
00:13:21 --> 00:13:24 what our badge system is. It's guiding them to
00:13:24 --> 00:13:26 the way to navigate their life in healthier ways.
00:13:26 --> 00:13:30 Thank you so much for letting us know. What's
00:13:30 --> 00:13:32 something that you have realized as an adult
00:13:32 --> 00:13:35 that you wish was taught earlier, especially
00:13:35 --> 00:13:37 when it comes to different cultural perspectives?
00:13:38 --> 00:13:40 I think they should be teaching this in schools,
00:13:40 --> 00:13:42 honestly. I think about this so much. What we
00:13:42 --> 00:13:47 believe, is it really ours? It's actually what
00:13:47 --> 00:13:49 we're taught. For example, in Canada, mental
00:13:49 --> 00:13:53 health is talked about very openly. If you're
00:13:53 --> 00:13:55 struggling, there are resources. But in other
00:13:55 --> 00:13:58 places like Bangladesh, where Lami is from, that's
00:13:58 --> 00:14:00 not always the case. There's still a big stigma
00:14:00 --> 00:14:02 around mental health, and a lot of people don't
00:14:02 --> 00:14:05 even have access to therapy, let alone feel comfortable
00:14:05 --> 00:14:08 seeking it. Instead, they're taught to tough
00:14:08 --> 00:14:10 it out, and shuggling means you're not working
00:14:10 --> 00:14:13 hard enough. And now, if you take someone from
00:14:13 --> 00:14:15 Canada and someone from Bangladesh and put them
00:14:15 --> 00:14:17 in the same conversation about mental health,
00:14:17 --> 00:14:19 for example, they might not fully understand
00:14:19 --> 00:14:20 each other. This is what they've been taught.
00:14:20 --> 00:14:22 Two different cultures, two different perspectives.
00:14:22 --> 00:14:25 One person might say, just go to therapy. While
00:14:25 --> 00:14:27 the other person might say, that's not how it
00:14:27 --> 00:14:30 works. Like, you're not doing... Enough. And
00:14:30 --> 00:14:32 that's exactly where misunderstandings happen.
00:14:32 --> 00:14:34 And it's not just with mental health, but with
00:14:34 --> 00:14:37 relationships, success, gender roles, conflict
00:14:37 --> 00:14:40 resolution, literally everything, every conversation
00:14:40 --> 00:14:44 you have. We assume people are thinking the way
00:14:44 --> 00:14:47 that we do. And we don't ask someone why they
00:14:47 --> 00:14:49 think something different. We're not using our
00:14:49 --> 00:14:51 perspective -taking skills of what was there
00:14:51 --> 00:14:54 before. We're just seeing the tip of the conversation,
00:14:54 --> 00:14:57 not the perspective. And that is why before we
00:14:57 --> 00:15:00 launch to any country with Empowered, we make
00:15:00 --> 00:15:03 it a priority to study the culture, not to adapt
00:15:03 --> 00:15:06 to it, but to study it, to understand it. To
00:15:06 --> 00:15:08 teach our members before they engage with people
00:15:08 --> 00:15:10 from different backgrounds. If we don't do that,
00:15:10 --> 00:15:12 we're just bringing a bunch of people together
00:15:12 --> 00:15:14 without giving them the tools to actually understand
00:15:14 --> 00:15:18 each other. Right. Like she mentioned, though,
00:15:18 --> 00:15:21 different cultures like from Bangladesh and Canada,
00:15:21 --> 00:15:23 there's a huge difference when we talk about
00:15:23 --> 00:15:25 mental health and all this thing. It's a stigma.
00:15:25 --> 00:15:28 Still is. We are struggling. People don't like
00:15:28 --> 00:15:32 to mention about mental health. Maybe nowadays
00:15:32 --> 00:15:35 it has become a trend that they talk about it,
00:15:35 --> 00:15:39 not in a right way. It's just misinterpreted.
00:15:39 --> 00:15:41 People are taking it in a different perspective
00:15:41 --> 00:15:44 that I personally don't like. I am not even finding
00:15:44 --> 00:15:48 the right psychiatrist for me. So exactly this
00:15:48 --> 00:15:51 is why education is the foundation of Empower.
00:15:51 --> 00:15:54 So we are not here to adjust our values based
00:15:54 --> 00:15:57 on where we are. Respect, emotional intelligence
00:15:57 --> 00:16:00 and growth are non -negotiable in this platform.
00:16:00 --> 00:16:03 But we also know that you cannot expect people
00:16:03 --> 00:16:06 to unlearn something if they were never taught
00:16:06 --> 00:16:08 differently in the first place. So before we
00:16:08 --> 00:16:11 launch Empower in a new country, we ask a few
00:16:11 --> 00:16:15 questions. What are the social norms there? How
00:16:15 --> 00:16:17 do people view mental health conflict relationships
00:16:17 --> 00:16:21 or success? What biases exist and why? And then
00:16:21 --> 00:16:24 we create educational modules inside the app
00:16:24 --> 00:16:27 so that when members start interacting, they
00:16:27 --> 00:16:30 are not just reacting based on what they were
00:16:30 --> 00:16:32 taught growing up. They actually have the context
00:16:32 --> 00:16:36 for why someone might think differently. We really
00:16:36 --> 00:16:39 want to learn the culture first. It can be like
00:16:39 --> 00:16:41 South Asia. It can be like Africa. It can be
00:16:41 --> 00:16:44 anywhere. We want to really learn the culture
00:16:44 --> 00:16:47 and then provide the education based on where
00:16:47 --> 00:16:50 they are in their life at this moment. Like Roseanne
00:16:50 --> 00:16:52 mentioned, we are not coming with the same perspective
00:16:52 --> 00:16:55 or the same understanding. That's why it's very
00:16:55 --> 00:16:57 important. That's the difference between forcing
00:16:57 --> 00:17:01 diversity and actually creating that. It's not
00:17:01 --> 00:17:04 about forcing people to agree. It's about giving
00:17:04 --> 00:17:06 them that information they need to engage with
00:17:06 --> 00:17:09 an open mind. Because the truth is, people aren't
00:17:09 --> 00:17:12 ignorant. They're just uninformed. You can't
00:17:12 --> 00:17:13 expect someone to think differently if they've
00:17:13 --> 00:17:15 never been taught another way. That's why Empower
00:17:15 --> 00:17:18 just doesn't connect people. We actually prepare
00:17:18 --> 00:17:20 them to have meaningful discussions. Otherwise,
00:17:20 --> 00:17:22 what is the point of bringing everyone together
00:17:22 --> 00:17:26 if they don't even understand each other? Right.
00:17:26 --> 00:17:30 Thank you so much, you both, for those very wonderful
00:17:30 --> 00:17:33 perspectives and a lot of food for thought. I
00:17:33 --> 00:17:36 feel personally there is so much more just to
00:17:36 --> 00:17:39 thinking of what we do actually in social media
00:17:39 --> 00:17:42 and how we can leverage that and even how it
00:17:42 --> 00:17:45 can help us with our mental health tremendous.
00:17:45 --> 00:17:48 I don't think many people have that deep thought
00:17:48 --> 00:17:50 because it's kind of the purpose of social media
00:17:50 --> 00:17:53 that changes from day to day. One time it's for
00:17:53 --> 00:17:56 leisure and other times for business. But you
00:17:56 --> 00:17:58 can definitely learn a lot from social medias
00:17:58 --> 00:18:01 and just connect with each other and grow. But
00:18:01 --> 00:18:04 I'm sure our audiences will really find value,
00:18:04 --> 00:18:08 should see that value in your platform. I do
00:18:08 --> 00:18:11 encourage the audiences to check out that information,
00:18:11 --> 00:18:14 check out the link and your app. But we'll talk
00:18:14 --> 00:18:16 about that a bit later as well. But before that,
00:18:16 --> 00:18:19 I also want to ask you a bit about personality
00:18:19 --> 00:18:21 traits because you are two different persons
00:18:21 --> 00:18:24 meeting from two different sides of the world.
00:18:25 --> 00:18:27 Definitely, there would be some differences between
00:18:27 --> 00:18:31 you guys' personality. But you both run a company
00:18:31 --> 00:18:35 together. So my question is, how do your personalities
00:18:35 --> 00:18:38 show up in the leadership while operating this
00:18:38 --> 00:18:41 company? And what have you learned about yourselves
00:18:41 --> 00:18:45 through this process? We'll get into it. So I've
00:18:45 --> 00:18:47 always been bubbly, easygoing. And because of
00:18:47 --> 00:18:50 that, people tend to walk all over me. So I try
00:18:50 --> 00:18:52 to be more assertive in business meetings and
00:18:52 --> 00:18:55 when we work with all the universities. But when
00:18:55 --> 00:18:57 I try to be too assertive, I am seen too harsh.
00:18:58 --> 00:19:00 And that frustrates me because I'm not trying
00:19:00 --> 00:19:02 to be aggressive. I'm trying to stand my ground
00:19:02 --> 00:19:04 instead of being the opposite, which is easygoing.
00:19:05 --> 00:19:07 People are taking advantage of me. We've worked
00:19:07 --> 00:19:10 with over 20 universities and sometimes students
00:19:10 --> 00:19:12 don't transition from looking at these opportunities
00:19:12 --> 00:19:15 that we're giving them as student projects, as
00:19:15 --> 00:19:17 passionate as they are, but they're stuck in
00:19:17 --> 00:19:19 their student roles. They're not taking it as
00:19:19 --> 00:19:23 real life work. You can tell that when I have
00:19:23 --> 00:19:25 a really easygoing attitude, they don't take
00:19:25 --> 00:19:27 me as serious. So I asked my therapist about
00:19:27 --> 00:19:30 it and she told me something that really stuck
00:19:30 --> 00:19:32 with me. She said, the reason you feel you're
00:19:32 --> 00:19:34 either too soft or too aggressive is because
00:19:34 --> 00:19:37 growing up, being loud was the only way you could
00:19:37 --> 00:19:40 be heard. That hit me hard because that made
00:19:40 --> 00:19:43 me realize all of our reactions, whether it's
00:19:43 --> 00:19:45 in businesses, relationships, or friendships,
00:19:46 --> 00:19:48 are based on the survival patterns that we had
00:19:48 --> 00:19:51 as we were growing up. So example, if you grew
00:19:51 --> 00:19:53 up having to fight to be heard, you might be
00:19:53 --> 00:19:56 overly assertive now. If you grew up having to
00:19:56 --> 00:19:58 constantly keep the peace, you might struggle
00:19:58 --> 00:20:01 to set boundaries. I think leadership really
00:20:01 --> 00:20:04 exposes those things. You start noticing, oh,
00:20:04 --> 00:20:07 I react this way because this is what I had to
00:20:07 --> 00:20:09 do before. And that doesn't always mean it's
00:20:09 --> 00:20:11 the right approach. Leadership isn't about just
00:20:11 --> 00:20:13 running a business. It's about knowing yourself.
00:20:15 --> 00:20:18 And I think like Razan said, and you also mentioned
00:20:18 --> 00:20:20 that we come from different parts of the world
00:20:20 --> 00:20:24 and we come from different experiences. So while
00:20:24 --> 00:20:27 she is the bubbly and a really nice person, I
00:20:27 --> 00:20:31 am more on the side of the tougher side. I always
00:20:31 --> 00:20:33 say that, you know what, I am always strict,
00:20:33 --> 00:20:35 cut to the point. This is what I require. This
00:20:35 --> 00:20:39 is what it is. The way I was raised. the way
00:20:39 --> 00:20:42 I have seen leadership and businesses grow and
00:20:42 --> 00:20:44 everything. And you're also from Bangladesh,
00:20:44 --> 00:20:46 you know, the culture here, it's very tough,
00:20:46 --> 00:20:49 very competitive. Everyone pushes each other
00:20:49 --> 00:20:53 to be the best. So who is going to, you know,
00:20:53 --> 00:20:56 just compete and the same medal. So there is
00:20:56 --> 00:20:58 always this, this fight, you know, mentally,
00:20:59 --> 00:21:02 physically, emotionally. And for me, leadership
00:21:02 --> 00:21:04 hasn't just been about running a business also.
00:21:05 --> 00:21:08 It's been about understanding myself. If you
00:21:08 --> 00:21:11 don't understand yourself, your lackings or your
00:21:11 --> 00:21:13 shortcomings and then your strengths, of course,
00:21:13 --> 00:21:16 you could show up better for others. Especially
00:21:16 --> 00:21:18 in my partnership with Razan, it is something
00:21:18 --> 00:21:23 that I really had to learn because she also had
00:21:23 --> 00:21:27 ADHD and I did not have any knowledge about it
00:21:27 --> 00:21:32 prior. Here in Bangladesh, it's not even a subject
00:21:32 --> 00:21:34 to even discuss. So one of the biggest lessons
00:21:34 --> 00:21:37 I have learned is that you can't build a truly
00:21:37 --> 00:21:39 safe space, whether in business, friendship,
00:21:39 --> 00:21:41 or community, if you don't even understand what
00:21:41 --> 00:21:45 makes you feel special. So when Razan and I started
00:21:45 --> 00:21:48 walking together, I had to take a step back and
00:21:48 --> 00:21:51 really ask myself, because there were some, of
00:21:51 --> 00:21:53 course, we were working remotely. What do I need
00:21:53 --> 00:21:57 to feel heard and understood? And how do I naturally
00:21:57 --> 00:22:00 communicate? And is that always the best way?
00:22:01 --> 00:22:04 And am I holding on to ways of thinking that
00:22:04 --> 00:22:07 make it harder for us to work together? Of course,
00:22:07 --> 00:22:09 I had to do that. I had to understand my own
00:22:09 --> 00:22:13 emotional needs, my own triggers, my own communication
00:22:13 --> 00:22:16 patterns so that I, you know, actually express
00:22:16 --> 00:22:19 them instead of expecting her just to figure
00:22:19 --> 00:22:22 it out. The way, you know, our culture works,
00:22:22 --> 00:22:24 our culture works completely differently. So
00:22:24 --> 00:22:27 at the same time, I had to understand how she
00:22:27 --> 00:22:30 operates because ADHD affects how she processes
00:22:30 --> 00:22:34 information. So how she focuses, how she communicates.
00:22:34 --> 00:22:37 And if I wasn't aware of it, actually, I went
00:22:37 --> 00:22:40 back and researched about it. When I found it
00:22:40 --> 00:22:44 out, I started observing her and noticing everything.
00:22:44 --> 00:22:47 So I could have easily mistaken things as her
00:22:47 --> 00:22:50 not listening or not caring. When in reality,
00:22:50 --> 00:22:53 her brain just works differently from mine. I
00:22:53 --> 00:22:56 had to do the study and research myself to educate
00:22:56 --> 00:22:59 myself. Once we started actively learning about
00:22:59 --> 00:23:02 each other, instead of making assumptions, we
00:23:02 --> 00:23:06 sit and talk about each other. On that day, what
00:23:06 --> 00:23:08 made her feel that way? What made me feel that
00:23:08 --> 00:23:12 way? We discuss every day the open and transparent
00:23:12 --> 00:23:15 conversations. And once we started actively doing
00:23:15 --> 00:23:18 that, It really helped us. We felt comfortable,
00:23:19 --> 00:23:21 safe and heard. And I think that's such a huge
00:23:21 --> 00:23:25 lesson, not just for leadership, but any space
00:23:25 --> 00:23:27 where people are trying to connect. That's what
00:23:27 --> 00:23:30 we are doing within Tower. If we want to build
00:23:30 --> 00:23:33 a space where people feel safe, respected and
00:23:33 --> 00:23:36 truly supported, we have to first help them understand
00:23:36 --> 00:23:39 themselves, their shortcoming strengths and everything.
00:23:39 --> 00:23:42 Just bring those things up and then help them
00:23:42 --> 00:23:44 understand each other. Because the truth is,
00:23:44 --> 00:23:47 most people don't want to be misunderstood or
00:23:47 --> 00:23:50 harmful. They just don't always have the tool
00:23:50 --> 00:23:52 to communicate their thoughts in a way that makes
00:23:52 --> 00:23:56 others feel seen. And once you have that understanding,
00:23:57 --> 00:24:00 once you stop assuming someone is against you
00:24:00 --> 00:24:03 and start asking why they think the way they
00:24:03 --> 00:24:06 do, that's when real connections happen. And
00:24:06 --> 00:24:10 I think leadership is not just supporting my
00:24:10 --> 00:24:13 team and taking the lead. It's about... creating
00:24:13 --> 00:24:16 a shield around your team. Even if you need to
00:24:16 --> 00:24:19 step back and give the spotlight to someone else,
00:24:19 --> 00:24:22 you are not hesitant about it. There is no jealousy,
00:24:22 --> 00:24:25 no competition. We are here together against
00:24:25 --> 00:24:28 the world as we're building it together. So I
00:24:28 --> 00:24:32 think that runs not between us. We share the
00:24:32 --> 00:24:35 same value with everyone who is part of Empowered.
00:24:36 --> 00:24:39 Thank you so much both for that wonderful answer.
00:24:40 --> 00:24:43 While I was listening to you guys, I just felt
00:24:43 --> 00:24:46 that anything, if it's an entrepreneurship, if
00:24:46 --> 00:24:48 it's a startup, if it's a business, and if there's
00:24:48 --> 00:24:51 multiple partners working together on that, what
00:24:51 --> 00:24:54 does the partner feel for each other? Because
00:24:54 --> 00:24:57 business is not only a business, it's a connection,
00:24:57 --> 00:25:00 it's a relationship. But how much do we actually
00:25:00 --> 00:25:03 invest on those relationships? That's a very
00:25:03 --> 00:25:05 important question. And I feel how you mentioned,
00:25:05 --> 00:25:09 Lamia, that you, when you learned about Rezan
00:25:09 --> 00:25:12 sometimes having ADHD kind of conditions and
00:25:12 --> 00:25:14 you did those studies, actually shows the dedication
00:25:14 --> 00:25:17 that you had to understand your partner and to
00:25:17 --> 00:25:21 better work together. Having that same vision
00:25:21 --> 00:25:25 to create this platform and having that same
00:25:25 --> 00:25:27 mindset into that platform as well really shows
00:25:27 --> 00:25:30 how strong this platform actually is and how
00:25:30 --> 00:25:33 effective it will be. So I'm really amazed to
00:25:33 --> 00:25:36 learn about the amazing partnership that you
00:25:36 --> 00:25:39 both have and the dedication for each other,
00:25:39 --> 00:25:41 but also for the company. That energy actually
00:25:41 --> 00:25:43 transpires and makes the platform even stronger
00:25:43 --> 00:25:46 because you guys went through that firsthand.
00:25:47 --> 00:25:50 I'm really, really appreciative of that. Let's
00:25:50 --> 00:25:53 talk a bit about social media and toxicity because
00:25:53 --> 00:25:56 we see that everywhere these days. I used to
00:25:56 --> 00:26:00 play games a lot. before and we were in discord
00:26:00 --> 00:26:02 servers and everywhere so in discord servers
00:26:02 --> 00:26:05 you can chat and you can say things to others
00:26:05 --> 00:26:07 there is a lot of toxicity that goes around there
00:26:07 --> 00:26:10 even if we check social media you can see in
00:26:10 --> 00:26:13 the comment section that anyone is posting an
00:26:13 --> 00:26:15 achievement or something special you will see
00:26:15 --> 00:26:17 people if it's a public thing you will see people
00:26:17 --> 00:26:20 commenting all sorts of stuff over there that
00:26:20 --> 00:26:24 actually makes me sad very often so i wanted
00:26:24 --> 00:26:26 to ask you on this topic about social media and
00:26:26 --> 00:26:29 toxicity A lot of people actually feel online
00:26:29 --> 00:26:32 spaces are either too toxic or too censored.
00:26:33 --> 00:26:37 How is Empower handling this moderation differently
00:26:37 --> 00:26:40 from other social medias? Yeah, you were talking
00:26:40 --> 00:26:42 about the comment section. Before I even get
00:26:42 --> 00:26:45 to the comment section, if I see a post, I already
00:26:45 --> 00:26:48 know that it's going to be filled with toxicity
00:26:48 --> 00:26:51 in the comments at this point. Because the way
00:26:51 --> 00:26:53 that social media is moderating content right
00:26:53 --> 00:26:56 now, it is completely broken. If someone is saying
00:26:56 --> 00:26:58 something problematic, they're banned. If a conversation
00:26:58 --> 00:27:01 gets heated, the post is deleted. But does that
00:27:01 --> 00:27:05 really fix anything? No. With the same behaviors,
00:27:05 --> 00:27:07 they're just moving somewhere else, doing the
00:27:07 --> 00:27:10 same thing, and nothing changes. So what we're
00:27:10 --> 00:27:12 doing within Power is saying, what if instead
00:27:12 --> 00:27:14 of just banning people, we actually taught them
00:27:14 --> 00:27:17 how to engage better? So let's say someone makes
00:27:17 --> 00:27:20 a dismissive comment in a mental health discussion.
00:27:20 --> 00:27:22 Instead of blocking them, we ask questions. Did
00:27:22 --> 00:27:24 they understand why their words were harmful?
00:27:25 --> 00:27:27 Have they ever been taught how to approach sensitive
00:27:27 --> 00:27:30 topics with empathy? And would they do better
00:27:30 --> 00:27:33 if they were given the right tools? Instead of
00:27:33 --> 00:27:35 removing them, we give them the opportunity to
00:27:35 --> 00:27:37 earn, say, example conflict resolution badge
00:27:37 --> 00:27:40 by completing a small interactive course on how
00:27:40 --> 00:27:43 to communicate with understanding. So once they
00:27:43 --> 00:27:45 complete it, they can rejoin the discussion.
00:27:45 --> 00:27:47 But now they actually understand why their words
00:27:47 --> 00:27:50 had an impact. We're making a movement here.
00:27:50 --> 00:27:52 We're creating a better, healthier environment
00:27:52 --> 00:27:54 for everyone. And they have the chance to come
00:27:54 --> 00:27:56 along with us on this. That is the difference
00:27:56 --> 00:27:59 between a platform that truly promotes growth
00:27:59 --> 00:28:01 and one that just throws people when things get
00:28:01 --> 00:28:03 uncomfortable. We are not here to cancel people.
00:28:04 --> 00:28:06 We are here to transform the way they engage
00:28:06 --> 00:28:11 online. Exactly, because people don't want moderation.
00:28:11 --> 00:28:14 They rather want fairness. Think about it, everybody
00:28:14 --> 00:28:17 getting their post removed without an explanation.
00:28:17 --> 00:28:19 In general, social media platforms, when they
00:28:19 --> 00:28:22 remove any content, they will just mention that
00:28:22 --> 00:28:24 it's against the community guidelines. And you
00:28:24 --> 00:28:26 get such a big guideline, you don't know what
00:28:26 --> 00:28:29 you broke and how you actually broke it. They
00:28:29 --> 00:28:32 feel frustrated. And that's why Empower's AI
00:28:32 --> 00:28:36 -powered accountability system doesn't just flag
00:28:36 --> 00:28:39 that behavior. It actually teaches people how
00:28:39 --> 00:28:42 to do better. We do have real people who are
00:28:42 --> 00:28:46 moderating. We also have the AI is helping everyone
00:28:46 --> 00:28:49 who is doing it firsthand. And beyond moderation,
00:28:49 --> 00:28:52 we have taken security and verification very
00:28:52 --> 00:28:54 seriously. One of the biggest problems on social
00:28:54 --> 00:28:57 media today is fake profiles, impersonation,
00:28:57 --> 00:29:00 and people avoiding accountability by creating
00:29:00 --> 00:29:03 new accounts. After being removed, every single
00:29:03 --> 00:29:05 person is verified through our three -factor
00:29:05 --> 00:29:09 verification authentication process. No one can
00:29:09 --> 00:29:11 create multiple profiles under different names.
00:29:11 --> 00:29:15 If someone is removed, they cannot just make
00:29:15 --> 00:29:18 a new account and come back. Every member is
00:29:18 --> 00:29:20 accountable for their presence in the community.
00:29:21 --> 00:29:25 This eliminates trolling, impersonation, ensuring
00:29:25 --> 00:29:29 that when engaged. with someone on Empower, you
00:29:29 --> 00:29:31 know they are who they say they are. That's why
00:29:31 --> 00:29:34 we don't believe in throwing people away. If
00:29:34 --> 00:29:37 someone is willing to learn, we will always give
00:29:37 --> 00:29:40 them the tools to improve. And that's how real
00:29:40 --> 00:29:43 change happens, not just in online spaces, but
00:29:43 --> 00:29:46 in real world because social media impacts our
00:29:46 --> 00:29:50 real life a lot. We see contents and subconsciously
00:29:50 --> 00:29:53 it is consuming everything, our thought process
00:29:53 --> 00:29:56 and everything. However we behave and whatever
00:29:56 --> 00:30:00 we see, that actually impacts our real life.
00:30:00 --> 00:30:03 So we are trying to change all this thing and
00:30:03 --> 00:30:06 eliminate all this toxicity. The badge system
00:30:06 --> 00:30:10 was created as a true manifestation of my own
00:30:10 --> 00:30:13 experiences. My whole life, I have been so lucky
00:30:13 --> 00:30:15 to have friends who never judged me. And when
00:30:15 --> 00:30:18 I was doing something wrong or misinformed, they
00:30:18 --> 00:30:21 always met me with respect, kindness, and education.
00:30:21 --> 00:30:23 And that's the key thing with the badge system.
00:30:24 --> 00:30:27 knew my intention was never to be harmful. I
00:30:27 --> 00:30:30 just needed a chance to understand. So they always
00:30:30 --> 00:30:32 educated me with that love, kindness, and respect.
00:30:32 --> 00:30:35 That's what is empowering. When you're given
00:30:35 --> 00:30:37 that unconditional love and people hold the space
00:30:37 --> 00:30:41 for you to grow instead of punishing you for
00:30:41 --> 00:30:43 what you don't know, you actually want to do
00:30:43 --> 00:30:46 better. You want to listen. You want to improve,
00:30:46 --> 00:30:49 not out of fear, but out of respect. That's what
00:30:49 --> 00:30:51 the BASH system is all about. We don't label
00:30:51 --> 00:30:53 anyone as wrong or bad. We give them the tools
00:30:53 --> 00:30:56 to evolve. The truth is we all have blind spots.
00:30:56 --> 00:30:59 We all make mistakes. But growth only happens
00:30:59 --> 00:31:02 when we feel safe to unlearn and relearn. And
00:31:02 --> 00:31:05 that safety comes from knowing that you're engaging
00:31:05 --> 00:31:08 in real life verified communities, not a space
00:31:08 --> 00:31:10 filled with fake accounts or trolls. You have
00:31:10 --> 00:31:12 the chance to grow. You're not going to get canceled
00:31:12 --> 00:31:14 here on Empower. People are supporting you. A
00:31:14 --> 00:31:18 community is strong and empowering. That's wonderful
00:31:18 --> 00:31:25 and very, very innovative indeed. And that actually
00:31:25 --> 00:31:28 shows certain level of competence or certain
00:31:28 --> 00:31:31 level of achievement that a user has done. And
00:31:31 --> 00:31:33 that actually lets them understand that these
00:31:33 --> 00:31:36 people have this ability to do that. An idea
00:31:36 --> 00:31:39 signifies how much well planned and thought this
00:31:39 --> 00:31:43 platform is from genius mind's view. And also
00:31:43 --> 00:31:46 I really appreciate that. three factors, authenticating
00:31:46 --> 00:31:50 profiles. So in order to remove unverified or
00:31:50 --> 00:31:53 duplicate or fake accounts, that actually creates
00:31:53 --> 00:31:55 a healthy space in the social media platform.
00:31:56 --> 00:31:59 You mentioned, Lamia, if I'm not mistaken, about
00:31:59 --> 00:32:04 AI. So is there an AI element in InPower? And
00:32:04 --> 00:32:06 if there is, I want to learn a bit more about
00:32:06 --> 00:32:09 that. Yeah, because it was, again, another true
00:32:09 --> 00:32:12 manifestation of my experiences. And our AI is
00:32:12 --> 00:32:16 called Mika. Mika is our AI. It's like having
00:32:16 --> 00:32:19 a best friend who truly understands you and knows
00:32:19 --> 00:32:21 what you need, even when you're struggling to
00:32:21 --> 00:32:24 figure it out. So it was inspired by my best
00:32:24 --> 00:32:26 friend, Dominika, who was that person for me.
00:32:26 --> 00:32:30 So she didn't tell me what to do. She understood
00:32:30 --> 00:32:33 who I was in the moment, what I was capable of
00:32:33 --> 00:32:36 in that moment, and what I needed in a way that
00:32:36 --> 00:32:38 was possible for me. For example, if someone
00:32:38 --> 00:32:40 is depressed, there's low functioning depression,
00:32:40 --> 00:32:43 there's high functioning depression. Low would
00:32:43 --> 00:32:45 be you can't get out of bed or brush your teeth.
00:32:45 --> 00:32:47 High functioning depression would be I'm showing
00:32:47 --> 00:32:49 up, I'm on the podcast, nobody knows that I'm
00:32:49 --> 00:32:52 going through depression. Getting the right resources
00:32:52 --> 00:32:55 for what you're experiencing is so powerful.
00:32:55 --> 00:32:58 You get the right kind of support for those moments.
00:32:59 --> 00:33:02 So in my life, I was very lost and overwhelmed
00:33:02 --> 00:33:04 when I was younger and I don't know where to
00:33:04 --> 00:33:07 turn. And Dominika, she didn't throw at random
00:33:07 --> 00:33:09 advice at me, functioning, low functioning, depression,
00:33:09 --> 00:33:11 different types of advice for different parts
00:33:11 --> 00:33:14 of it. She met me where I was. She knew when
00:33:14 --> 00:33:16 I needed the resources, when I needed space,
00:33:16 --> 00:33:18 when I needed a push, and when I just needed
00:33:18 --> 00:33:20 to be heard. I mean, that's exactly what Mika
00:33:20 --> 00:33:22 does for people. Mika's trained by psychologists
00:33:22 --> 00:33:25 and therapists to actually guide you based on
00:33:25 --> 00:33:26 where you are in your life and not just throw
00:33:26 --> 00:33:29 the generic self -help tips, but understand the
00:33:29 --> 00:33:31 differences between someone who's feeling a little
00:33:31 --> 00:33:33 lost, needs direction. And someone who's in a
00:33:33 --> 00:33:35 deep place of struggle and can't even get out
00:33:35 --> 00:33:38 of bed. So you can't give those two depressed
00:33:38 --> 00:33:41 people the same resources as I mentioned. And
00:33:41 --> 00:33:43 that's what makes Mika different is actually
00:33:43 --> 00:33:45 understands where you are mentally, emotionally,
00:33:45 --> 00:33:48 and physically. And gives you the right resources
00:33:48 --> 00:33:52 to fit where you are right now. And the best
00:33:52 --> 00:33:54 part, Mika doesn't just give advice. It connects
00:33:54 --> 00:33:58 you to real solutions. Our Mika is trained by
00:33:58 --> 00:34:02 psychologists. So our AI, whoever is working
00:34:02 --> 00:34:05 with the AI, he has built everything from scratch.
00:34:05 --> 00:34:08 So our Mika is a bit different than the traditional
00:34:08 --> 00:34:10 ones. Of course, they will get all the things
00:34:10 --> 00:34:14 that you can do with the traditional ones. But
00:34:14 --> 00:34:18 it is more with the understanding of a user's
00:34:18 --> 00:34:21 personality and eventually help them with every
00:34:21 --> 00:34:25 guidance in their whole life. So Mika can help
00:34:25 --> 00:34:27 them with... Other things like career with their
00:34:27 --> 00:34:30 financial planning, spiritual growth, relationship
00:34:30 --> 00:34:33 with all the tools and all the resources that
00:34:33 --> 00:34:36 is required. And it can do more, but I'm not
00:34:36 --> 00:34:39 going deeper into that because it's a surprise
00:34:39 --> 00:34:42 maybe. And also, growth doesn't happen in isolation.
00:34:43 --> 00:34:46 It happens when you have support, guidance, access
00:34:46 --> 00:34:49 to the right tools. And that's exactly what Mika
00:34:49 --> 00:34:52 is here for. And the way Dominika helped Rizan.
00:34:52 --> 00:34:55 The way she didn't judge her, didn't rush her
00:34:55 --> 00:34:59 or just held the space and give her the exact
00:34:59 --> 00:35:02 resources she needed. Mika is inspired by and
00:35:02 --> 00:35:05 that's what our Mika does. We wanted to take
00:35:05 --> 00:35:08 that kind of unconditional support and make it
00:35:08 --> 00:35:10 accessible for everyone because everyone deserves
00:35:10 --> 00:35:13 to feel seen, understood and supported. And that's
00:35:13 --> 00:35:16 what Mika does. So, yeah, I'm not going much
00:35:16 --> 00:35:19 deeper on all the offerings that Mika will be
00:35:19 --> 00:35:22 providing. So let's give it a surprise for that.
00:35:22 --> 00:35:26 For sure. I just want to learn a bit more because
00:35:26 --> 00:35:28 when you just mentioned that Mika is trained
00:35:28 --> 00:35:31 by psychologists and counselors, I just wanted
00:35:31 --> 00:35:34 to understand how did you get that to do with
00:35:34 --> 00:35:38 AI tools? How was the training happening? AI
00:35:38 --> 00:35:41 is actually intelligent because all the platforms
00:35:41 --> 00:35:45 are given, you train every day, right? You train
00:35:45 --> 00:35:47 the model every day with every information. So
00:35:47 --> 00:35:50 every time we get... psychologists or every time
00:35:50 --> 00:35:53 we partner up with different psychologists and
00:35:53 --> 00:35:55 researchers they provide they actually train
00:35:55 --> 00:35:58 the ai and how the situations and everything
00:35:58 --> 00:36:01 the prompting the training everything is done
00:36:01 --> 00:36:04 with their knowledge and with their experience
00:36:04 --> 00:36:07 that's why nika is a bit different and with our
00:36:07 --> 00:36:11 philosophy within power yeah the values philosophy
00:36:11 --> 00:36:14 of course then work only with people who actually
00:36:14 --> 00:36:18 align with our values who is there to accept
00:36:18 --> 00:36:21 that there are the need for change and we will
00:36:21 --> 00:36:25 be changing the rigid behavior and mindset. So
00:36:25 --> 00:36:29 I think that's what we are training our AI with.
00:36:29 --> 00:36:32 Everything in our platform is actually aligned
00:36:32 --> 00:36:35 with the values that we have. Our community,
00:36:35 --> 00:36:38 our tools, our resources and everything. And
00:36:38 --> 00:36:42 it's not just us creating it. It's a unified
00:36:42 --> 00:36:45 decision. The psychologists, the students who
00:36:45 --> 00:36:47 joined, the tech team, the marketing team, the
00:36:47 --> 00:36:50 financial team, and everyone. And we are working
00:36:50 --> 00:36:52 around the world. I'm from Bangladesh. She's
00:36:52 --> 00:36:54 from Canada. And we're working with several parts
00:36:54 --> 00:36:57 of the world. And we're bringing in all those
00:36:57 --> 00:36:59 cultures, all this understanding and putting
00:36:59 --> 00:37:02 it all together. It's a unified platform. We
00:37:02 --> 00:37:05 started actually with the community support and
00:37:05 --> 00:37:08 with their guidelines because they were asking
00:37:08 --> 00:37:11 for it. So it was the help they were asking for
00:37:11 --> 00:37:14 and we are providing. It looks like it's a very
00:37:14 --> 00:37:17 strong AI tool and it would be very useful and
00:37:17 --> 00:37:21 helpful for the in -power users. One of a kind
00:37:21 --> 00:37:25 thing I've seen in a long time. Thank you so
00:37:25 --> 00:37:29 much for sharing that information with us. I
00:37:29 --> 00:37:32 wanted to ask you, we hear a lot about intelligence
00:37:32 --> 00:37:35 and success, but not as much about emotional
00:37:35 --> 00:37:38 and social intelligence. Why do you think these
00:37:38 --> 00:37:40 are so important, especially in today's world?
00:37:40 --> 00:37:43 Because without emotional and social intelligence,
00:37:44 --> 00:37:47 nothing truly works. That's what we feel and
00:37:47 --> 00:37:49 I personally feel, whether in relationships,
00:37:50 --> 00:37:53 businesses, leadership, or even just daily interactions.
00:37:54 --> 00:37:58 We think of intelligence as knowledge, what to
00:37:58 --> 00:38:01 know, what to do, but emotional intelligence?
00:38:02 --> 00:38:05 That's understanding yourself and social interactions,
00:38:05 --> 00:38:07 that understanding how to interact with others.
00:38:08 --> 00:38:11 And regardless of how talented you are, you can't
00:38:11 --> 00:38:14 really navigate people. You will hit walls over
00:38:14 --> 00:38:17 and over again. Look at the world we live in.
00:38:17 --> 00:38:20 People are constantly misunderstanding each other
00:38:20 --> 00:38:23 online and in real life. So many conflicts, arguments,
00:38:23 --> 00:38:25 and divisions don't come from bad intention.
00:38:26 --> 00:38:29 They come from lack of awareness, maybe. I think
00:38:29 --> 00:38:32 today's world, people are really, really impatient.
00:38:33 --> 00:38:36 So people respond importantly instead of intentionally.
00:38:37 --> 00:38:40 They project their past onto the present. We
00:38:40 --> 00:38:43 don't live into the present anymore. And we think
00:38:43 --> 00:38:46 so much of our future. We are either living in
00:38:46 --> 00:38:49 the past or the future. So they assume instead
00:38:49 --> 00:38:52 of asking. And if you don't take the time to
00:38:52 --> 00:38:55 understand yourself, your triggers, your emotions,
00:38:55 --> 00:38:58 your reactions, you will keep carrying that into
00:38:58 --> 00:39:01 every conversation. And that's why emotional
00:39:01 --> 00:39:04 intelligence is the foundation for everything.
00:39:04 --> 00:39:07 It's what allows you to navigate the world without
00:39:07 --> 00:39:10 making everything personal. It's always not about
00:39:10 --> 00:39:13 you. The world does not revolve around you. There
00:39:13 --> 00:39:16 can be several things happening. with someone
00:39:16 --> 00:39:19 else's life. Yeah. And for me, having ADHD has
00:39:19 --> 00:39:20 made this something I've had to work on even
00:39:20 --> 00:39:23 more. Sometimes it's hard for me to read the
00:39:23 --> 00:39:25 room the way that other people naturally do.
00:39:25 --> 00:39:28 I might miss social cues, not realize how my
00:39:28 --> 00:39:30 tone comes across. That was a struggle at the
00:39:30 --> 00:39:32 beginning with Lomi and I in our relationship.
00:39:32 --> 00:39:34 I could be too direct without meaning to be.
00:39:35 --> 00:39:37 It's something I've had to actively learn how
00:39:37 --> 00:39:39 to slow down and be a little bit more intentional
00:39:39 --> 00:39:41 with how I communicate. And that's just a work
00:39:41 --> 00:39:44 in progress. I'm still learning my past habits.
00:39:44 --> 00:39:46 I'm grateful for my friends who have stuck by
00:39:46 --> 00:39:48 me through everything. And that is the essence
00:39:48 --> 00:39:51 of Empower, holding space for us to grow with
00:39:51 --> 00:39:55 unconditional love. Thank you so much for that.
00:39:55 --> 00:39:57 So I want to ask you a bit about human behavior
00:39:57 --> 00:40:00 again. So much of human behavior is shaped by
00:40:00 --> 00:40:04 experience. So Empower was designed with that
00:40:04 --> 00:40:07 in mind. Was that the case, actually? Absolutely.
00:40:07 --> 00:40:11 Our philosophy at Empower is deeply rooted in
00:40:11 --> 00:40:14 the idea of... How we think, act, and engage
00:40:14 --> 00:40:16 with others is shaped by our surroundings and
00:40:16 --> 00:40:19 education. People aren't born emotionally intelligent.
00:40:19 --> 00:40:22 They learn from what they see and how they were
00:40:22 --> 00:40:25 raised from what their environment took. If you
00:40:25 --> 00:40:27 grow up in a space where emotional expression
00:40:27 --> 00:40:29 was shut down, you probably struggle to communicate
00:40:29 --> 00:40:31 your feelings. If you were never taught how to
00:40:31 --> 00:40:35 navigate conflict, you probably avoid it or react
00:40:35 --> 00:40:38 defensively. So that's why Empower isn't just
00:40:38 --> 00:40:40 another social platform. It's built with a perspective
00:40:40 --> 00:40:44 of psychology, neuroscience, and human behavior
00:40:44 --> 00:40:46 in mind. We designed this app understanding how
00:40:46 --> 00:40:49 the brain works, how people react, what actually
00:40:49 --> 00:40:51 drives emotional and social growth. Everything
00:40:51 --> 00:40:54 from the way we moderate, from the way we discuss,
00:40:54 --> 00:40:57 how we approach personal development is all rooted
00:40:57 --> 00:41:00 in psychology principles. And that explains how
00:41:00 --> 00:41:02 people think and behave. Behavioral science that
00:41:02 --> 00:41:04 helps guide users toward healthier interactions.
00:41:05 --> 00:41:08 and education that actually help people unlearn
00:41:08 --> 00:41:10 unhealthy patterns. We learn emotionally. So
00:41:10 --> 00:41:14 empower isn't just about social connection. It's
00:41:14 --> 00:41:16 about understanding why we behave the way we
00:41:16 --> 00:41:19 do and helping people evolve into better versions
00:41:19 --> 00:41:22 of themselves. And that's why we integrate learning
00:41:22 --> 00:41:24 into every part of the platform, whether it's
00:41:24 --> 00:41:27 through interactive courses, AI -powered reflections,
00:41:27 --> 00:41:30 or guided group discussions. We believe when
00:41:30 --> 00:41:34 people understand why they feel the way they
00:41:34 --> 00:41:36 feel, why they think the way they do and why
00:41:36 --> 00:41:38 they act the way they do, they can start changing
00:41:38 --> 00:41:41 how they interact with others. And that is the
00:41:41 --> 00:41:44 core of Empower. It's not just an app. It's real
00:41:44 --> 00:41:48 human growth. Thank you so much for sharing that.
00:41:48 --> 00:41:51 Many people actually struggle with empathy, especially
00:41:51 --> 00:41:54 when they don't relate to someone's experience.
00:41:54 --> 00:41:57 So how can we build a real empathy for others?
00:41:58 --> 00:42:01 While we were creating this platform, we had
00:42:01 --> 00:42:04 to spend a lot of time other than our own experiences
00:42:04 --> 00:42:07 and our own learning process. We had to work
00:42:07 --> 00:42:09 with different psychologists and actually read
00:42:09 --> 00:42:11 a lot about it because what you are preaching,
00:42:11 --> 00:42:14 you need to practice that yourself first. So
00:42:14 --> 00:42:17 I think real empathy starts with curiosity. A
00:42:17 --> 00:42:20 lot of people think of empathy as I have to relate
00:42:20 --> 00:42:24 to your experience to care about it. true you
00:42:24 --> 00:42:27 don't have to personally understand what someone
00:42:27 --> 00:42:30 is going through to respect them to listen to
00:42:30 --> 00:42:33 hold space for them and that's where most people
00:42:33 --> 00:42:36 get stuck or they think that well I have never
00:42:36 --> 00:42:39 experienced that so I don't get it but that's
00:42:39 --> 00:42:42 really not the point of empathy empathy is not
00:42:42 --> 00:42:46 to get it perfectly it's it's to be open enough
00:42:46 --> 00:42:49 to listen that's why one of the best ways to
00:42:49 --> 00:42:53 build empathy is to ask more questions than assuming
00:42:53 --> 00:42:56 less Instead of that doesn't make sense to me.
00:42:56 --> 00:42:58 You can try saying that, okay, I have never thought
00:42:58 --> 00:43:02 about it that way. Can you tell me more? So someone
00:43:02 --> 00:43:04 would just, for instance, someone can just say,
00:43:04 --> 00:43:07 okay, I wouldn't react that way. They might be
00:43:07 --> 00:43:09 overreacting. Sometimes we do because that's
00:43:09 --> 00:43:11 our emotional space. Rather than that, you can
00:43:11 --> 00:43:14 say, okay, what might have led them to feel this
00:43:14 --> 00:43:17 way? So you can ask those questions rather than
00:43:17 --> 00:43:20 assuming that, okay, I wouldn't react that way
00:43:20 --> 00:43:22 at all. You don't know what that person is going
00:43:22 --> 00:43:26 through. Every single person is shaped by their
00:43:26 --> 00:43:29 own experiences. Just because something is not
00:43:29 --> 00:43:31 a big deal to you doesn't mean it's not a big
00:43:31 --> 00:43:34 deal for them. And when you start seeing people
00:43:34 --> 00:43:38 through that lens, when you start thinking, what
00:43:38 --> 00:43:42 if I grew up the way they did? What if I experienced
00:43:42 --> 00:43:44 what they have been through? That's when the
00:43:44 --> 00:43:49 journey begins of connection. Empathy is not
00:43:49 --> 00:43:53 about agreement. It's about understanding. We
00:43:53 --> 00:43:56 are reshaping the way we communicate online,
00:43:56 --> 00:44:00 which will help us in real life as well. Because
00:44:00 --> 00:44:02 like I said, we spend a lot of time online. So
00:44:02 --> 00:44:06 of course, it has an impact on our real life
00:44:06 --> 00:44:09 too. Happy does everything. So we are not silencing
00:44:09 --> 00:44:13 anyone. We are reconfiguring the way we communicate.
00:44:13 --> 00:44:15 That's one of the best ways, I guess, we can
00:44:15 --> 00:44:19 learn about empathy. and hold the real empathy
00:44:19 --> 00:44:23 for others. Yeah, Empower is about creating a
00:44:23 --> 00:44:26 culture of emotional intelligence, growth, and
00:44:26 --> 00:44:29 true connection. We want to change the way people
00:44:29 --> 00:44:31 engage with each other, both online and offline,
00:44:32 --> 00:44:34 by making self -awareness and social understanding
00:44:34 --> 00:44:37 the standard. That's what Empower is here to
00:44:37 --> 00:44:40 do. It's truly, truly a movement, and we're so
00:44:40 --> 00:44:42 excited for everyone who's joining our beta.
00:44:42 --> 00:44:45 If no one has joined our beta yet, they can sign
00:44:45 --> 00:44:47 up on our website and we'll be launching our
00:44:47 --> 00:44:51 beta this year. So we're really excited for that.
00:44:52 --> 00:44:56 I'm really hyped and excited to learn more about
00:44:56 --> 00:44:59 this platform and just viewing it really quickly.
00:44:59 --> 00:45:01 Dear listeners, if you do want to sign up for
00:45:01 --> 00:45:07 that beta, the website is www .weareinpower .com.
00:45:08 --> 00:45:10 If you do have any questions, please feel free
00:45:10 --> 00:45:13 to reach out to the founders. Razan and Lamia.
00:45:13 --> 00:45:16 If you do want to learn more about Razan and
00:45:16 --> 00:45:20 Lamia's work, you can definitely do that by visiting
00:45:20 --> 00:45:26 www .activeaction .fm and just go search Razan
00:45:26 --> 00:45:30 or Lamia's name and you will find their own personal
00:45:30 --> 00:45:33 webpage, which actually talks about InPower and
00:45:33 --> 00:45:36 some of the work that they have been doing. And
00:45:36 --> 00:45:38 it also includes their social media or their
00:45:38 --> 00:45:41 social handles. So if you want to connect with
00:45:41 --> 00:45:43 them. Through that, that's another way for you
00:45:43 --> 00:45:46 to do it. Thank you so much, Razan and Lamia,
00:45:46 --> 00:45:50 for meeting with me this morning and having this
00:45:50 --> 00:45:53 amazing conversation about a social media that
00:45:53 --> 00:45:58 will truly empower its users with the power of
00:45:58 --> 00:46:02 the AI that we are also excited to see and leverage
00:46:02 --> 00:46:05 from. Thank you so much and I really appreciate
00:46:05 --> 00:46:08 your time. Any last words you have for our audience?
00:46:11 --> 00:46:14 Yes, I think we would like to welcome everyone
00:46:14 --> 00:46:18 to sign up for the beta because there are much
00:46:18 --> 00:46:21 more things than what we are discussing because
00:46:21 --> 00:46:24 we haven't launched the beta yet. That's why
00:46:24 --> 00:46:26 we are not disclosing a lot of amazing features
00:46:26 --> 00:46:29 about Empower. It's not a social media. There
00:46:29 --> 00:46:33 are so much more. We talk about holistic development.
00:46:33 --> 00:46:36 We are all about giving you all the tools, all
00:46:36 --> 00:46:39 the resources to grow in every way possible.
00:46:39 --> 00:46:42 And we are here to help you and guide you and
00:46:42 --> 00:46:45 be with you, support you in this journey. No
00:46:45 --> 00:46:47 one is alone in this journey when you join in
00:46:47 --> 00:46:50 power. Even if you don't join, just take a look
00:46:50 --> 00:46:53 at it. I'm sure that everyone will fall in love
00:46:53 --> 00:46:57 with it. We really need the help of the community
00:46:57 --> 00:47:01 to be active and give their input because every
00:47:01 --> 00:47:03 decision we make is with the community. So if
00:47:03 --> 00:47:06 this aligns with anyone listening, please join
00:47:06 --> 00:47:09 our beta and join us on this newsletter. Thank
00:47:09 --> 00:47:12 you so much. I'm really sure audiences are also
00:47:12 --> 00:47:14 hyped me to learn more. And you can definitely
00:47:14 --> 00:47:17 do that by visiting their website, weareinpower
00:47:17 --> 00:47:22 .com. Also, if you want to just learn more, visit.
00:47:22 --> 00:47:26 Razan and Lamia's page in our website. Thank
00:47:26 --> 00:47:28 you so much. It was such a pleasure being here.
00:47:29 --> 00:47:33 Thank you. Thank you. Dear listeners, we were
00:47:33 --> 00:47:36 just talking to Razan and Lamia from InPower.
00:47:36 --> 00:47:39 I'm really hyped to see what this actually holds
00:47:39 --> 00:47:43 for the users and especially this era of social
00:47:43 --> 00:47:46 media. It's amazing to see something like this,
00:47:46 --> 00:47:49 which is innovative. Things about these users
00:47:49 --> 00:47:52 really empowers them to do what they want. And
00:47:52 --> 00:47:54 the best thing is to like learn from each other,
00:47:54 --> 00:47:58 learn from each user and make this a very strong
00:47:58 --> 00:48:02 suit for individuals and personality. And the
00:48:02 --> 00:48:05 toxic free environment just comes as a bonus.
00:48:06 --> 00:48:09 Big addition was the Mika AI that we are really
00:48:09 --> 00:48:12 excited to see how that supports the users, but
00:48:12 --> 00:48:15 I'm sure you'll be excited. So I really encourage
00:48:15 --> 00:48:17 you guys just to take a look at that. sign up
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