In this episode of the Active Action Podcast, host Dr. Nazif dives deep into the relationship between skin, health, lifestyle, and mental well-being with Dr. Fernanda. Dr. Fernanda, a skilled blend of scientist, artist, and Reiki master, shares her extensive knowledge on how one's environment, diet, stress levels, and self-care practices intertwine with skin health. She emphasizes the importance of loving one's skin, regardless of imperfections, and the powerful role that self-care plays in overall health. The discussion covers topics like the biological mechanisms of aging, the impact of genetic makeup versus environmental exposure, and the benefits of natural skincare products. Listeners will gain insights into maintaining a balanced lifestyle for optimal skin health and understand the importance of nurturing their skin through loving and mindful practices.
What You’ll Learn:
- How lifestyle, diet, and stress directly impact your skin and immune system
- The science behind why skincare is crucial for feeling good and staying healthy
- The mind-skin-gut connection and how your emotional wellbeing shows on your skin
- Why loving your skin is part of self-care and personal healing
- Which natural ingredients and nutrients are essential for healthy skin and a balanced life
- The role of genetics vs. environmental factors in our health and skin
- The science of aging and the truth behind anti-aging products
- Why true beauty is about self-love, inner balance, and mindful living
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00:00:00 --> 00:00:03 But you can be the age you are. You can look
00:00:03 --> 00:00:06 after yourself. You can delay signs of aging.
00:00:06 --> 00:00:11 But the other thing is you can feel so good about
00:00:11 --> 00:00:14 yourself, about looking after yourself. So you
00:00:14 --> 00:00:18 can't separate the way you think, where you live,
00:00:18 --> 00:00:24 from the way you look. So skin and health, lifestyle,
00:00:24 --> 00:00:30 are absolutely related to each other. It is important
00:00:30 --> 00:00:33 that you take cognizance of that. I am going
00:00:33 --> 00:00:38 to love my skin regardless of pimple, breakouts,
00:00:38 --> 00:00:42 dryness. I'm going to love it because it's part
00:00:42 --> 00:00:46 of me. Loving yourself and being good to yourself,
00:00:46 --> 00:00:49 caring yourself is the way to be. If you don't
00:00:49 --> 00:00:52 take care of it, it won't take care of you. So
00:00:52 --> 00:00:55 it's very important to have that in mind. So
00:00:55 --> 00:00:59 it's a privilege to be. Old causes me to die
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00:03:06 --> 00:03:09 from that, welcome back to another episode. And
00:03:09 --> 00:03:13 today we will be talking about health, mental
00:03:13 --> 00:03:18 health, and especially our skin. And we have
00:03:18 --> 00:03:20 a wonderful, knowledgeable guest with us. And
00:03:20 --> 00:03:23 without further ado, I would like to introduce
00:03:23 --> 00:03:29 to you with Dr. Fernanda. So Dr. Fernanda, she's
00:03:29 --> 00:03:33 a scientist, artist, a Reiki master. who blends
00:03:33 --> 00:03:36 science and soul in everything she does. Born
00:03:36 --> 00:03:40 in Lisbon and later living in South Africa and
00:03:40 --> 00:03:44 New Zealand, she holds a PhD degree in medical
00:03:44 --> 00:03:48 molecular biology, a master's in zoology, and
00:03:48 --> 00:03:54 a master of entrepreneurship. In 2010, she launched
00:03:54 --> 00:03:58 AzureList, a natural skincare brand rooted in
00:03:58 --> 00:04:03 simplicity, sustainability, and self -care. With
00:04:03 --> 00:04:06 a deep belief in cruelty -free beauty and holistic
00:04:06 --> 00:04:10 well -being, Fernanda is passionate about helping
00:04:10 --> 00:04:13 others live healthier, more conscious lives,
00:04:14 --> 00:04:18 both inside and out. So thank you so much, Dr.
00:04:18 --> 00:04:21 Fernanda, for joining in this episode of Active
00:04:21 --> 00:04:24 Action Podcast. How are you doing this evening?
00:04:24 --> 00:04:28 Great. And thank you, Dr. Nassif, for the opportunity
00:04:28 --> 00:04:33 to talk to your audience. and to share some of
00:04:33 --> 00:04:37 the things that are important, I think, to both
00:04:37 --> 00:04:41 of us and hopefully to many people as well. Thank
00:04:41 --> 00:04:44 you. We are very excited to learn from you. And
00:04:44 --> 00:04:47 as you can see in your audiences, today's episode
00:04:47 --> 00:04:50 I've named Skin Health and Lifestyle because
00:04:50 --> 00:04:53 we're going to talk everything about these three
00:04:53 --> 00:04:57 things. But before jumping into that. Dr. Fernanda,
00:04:57 --> 00:04:59 would you like to introduce yourself a bit to
00:04:59 --> 00:05:03 our audience apart from what I say? Right. So
00:05:03 --> 00:05:06 I was raised in Portugal. My dad was an engineer
00:05:06 --> 00:05:10 and he traveled with his company all over the
00:05:10 --> 00:05:14 world to go from one building site to another.
00:05:14 --> 00:05:16 And that's how I ended up in South Africa. So
00:05:16 --> 00:05:19 it wasn't sort of planned. And I ended up doing
00:05:19 --> 00:05:22 my tertiary education largely in South Africa
00:05:22 --> 00:05:25 and doing my research there. Middle of my time
00:05:25 --> 00:05:28 there in the 80s, where I thought of developing
00:05:28 --> 00:05:34 a company or developing a brand of skincare that
00:05:34 --> 00:05:37 focused on good, healthy ingredients, natural
00:05:37 --> 00:05:42 ingredients. avoiding so many of the technologically
00:05:42 --> 00:05:45 sophisticated forms of ingredients which were
00:05:45 --> 00:05:48 being developed at the time. And because I was
00:05:48 --> 00:05:51 feeling that it's a great initiative, but surely
00:05:51 --> 00:05:55 we can do just as well with natural stuff. I
00:05:55 --> 00:05:57 didn't at the time. So this was in the sort of
00:05:57 --> 00:06:00 80s, largely because I felt very constrained
00:06:00 --> 00:06:03 that in South Africa, there were so many socio
00:06:03 --> 00:06:07 -political issues. There was malnutrition. Kashioka
00:06:07 --> 00:06:11 was quite common in kids. And I felt that I was
00:06:11 --> 00:06:15 being very selfish, wanting to focus on developing
00:06:15 --> 00:06:19 a skin based on skin care when there's some people
00:06:19 --> 00:06:22 that didn't have food to eat. So I continued
00:06:22 --> 00:06:27 my research at the time, which was on tuberculosis,
00:06:27 --> 00:06:30 as well as on the focus of how the immune system
00:06:30 --> 00:06:35 coped with pathogens such as TB. and other pathogens.
00:06:35 --> 00:06:38 And that led to an invitation to come to New
00:06:38 --> 00:06:42 Zealand to work on a pathogen, not TB. It was
00:06:42 --> 00:06:45 Listeria monocytogenes, but it was from a different
00:06:45 --> 00:06:49 kind of aspect, just based on the sort of background
00:06:49 --> 00:06:52 knowledge that I acquired over the years. So
00:06:52 --> 00:06:56 we're still sort of talking bacteria and sort
00:06:56 --> 00:06:58 of being involved, stimulating the immune system.
00:06:58 --> 00:07:03 And then I got involved in biotechnology. The
00:07:03 --> 00:07:07 biotechnology company I was part of was focused
00:07:07 --> 00:07:12 on identifying markers for cancer to develop
00:07:12 --> 00:07:16 diagnostic tools so you could pick up the cancers,
00:07:16 --> 00:07:19 the malignancies at a much earlier stage. And
00:07:19 --> 00:07:22 I did that for a few years, but I still got constrained
00:07:22 --> 00:07:26 that I wanted to do my own company. Being in
00:07:26 --> 00:07:29 New Zealand was quite interesting because...
00:07:30 --> 00:07:33 I didn't have the heaviness that was associated
00:07:33 --> 00:07:36 with being in South Africa. And in fact, before
00:07:36 --> 00:07:39 I left South Africa, Mandela was released and
00:07:39 --> 00:07:42 South Africa went through a major change and
00:07:42 --> 00:07:44 is still going through major changes. There's
00:07:44 --> 00:07:47 lots still to be done. But in New Zealand, I
00:07:47 --> 00:07:51 felt less constrained and less selfish about
00:07:51 --> 00:07:55 starting the skincare company. And by this stage,
00:07:55 --> 00:07:59 I had accumulated. a slightly different spin
00:07:59 --> 00:08:02 on the benefits of skincare. It was becoming
00:08:02 --> 00:08:05 quite evident that looking after our skin is
00:08:05 --> 00:08:09 not just important for a cosmetic reason, but
00:08:09 --> 00:08:12 because it's part of who we are. It makes you
00:08:12 --> 00:08:16 feel good. I became a Reiki master, so I became
00:08:16 --> 00:08:20 very aware of what it's like to feel good, to
00:08:20 --> 00:08:23 love oneself, to be able to love others and do
00:08:23 --> 00:08:27 the best we can. as well as the fact that our
00:08:27 --> 00:08:31 skin being the biggest organ, no question has
00:08:31 --> 00:08:36 a very important function in protecting our bodies
00:08:36 --> 00:08:40 from all sorts of environmental as well as pathological
00:08:40 --> 00:08:45 events. That's the fact that there's such a relationship
00:08:45 --> 00:08:48 between the way we think and the way we look
00:08:48 --> 00:08:52 and the way we look after ourselves. that diseases
00:08:52 --> 00:08:56 are not just because there's a pathology. The
00:08:56 --> 00:08:58 reason why there's a pathology, it's a complicated
00:08:58 --> 00:09:03 scenario that is all about who we are and how
00:09:03 --> 00:09:07 we live. And so it became much more important
00:09:07 --> 00:09:10 for me to launch the company. But now having
00:09:10 --> 00:09:12 launched the company, it's trying to convince
00:09:12 --> 00:09:17 people not to use topical products, skincare
00:09:17 --> 00:09:19 products, just because you want to look 20 years
00:09:19 --> 00:09:22 younger. which is rubbish because you can't.
00:09:22 --> 00:09:28 That's just silly. But you can be the age you
00:09:28 --> 00:09:30 are. You can look after yourself. You can delay
00:09:30 --> 00:09:34 signs of aging. But the other thing is you can
00:09:34 --> 00:09:39 feel so good about yourself, about looking after
00:09:39 --> 00:09:42 yourself. Your skin feels so good that, in effect,
00:09:43 --> 00:09:46 you look better. And in looking better, you feel
00:09:46 --> 00:09:49 better. And people look at you and they say,
00:09:49 --> 00:09:52 oh, how are you? You're looking so good. And
00:09:52 --> 00:09:55 how do you feel? You feel good. If someone says
00:09:55 --> 00:09:57 to you, oh, you look terrible, how are you going
00:09:57 --> 00:09:59 to feel? You're going to feel terrible. This
00:09:59 --> 00:10:02 is all the sort of ethos, the philosophy behind.
00:10:02 --> 00:10:05 And the other thing is, as you've said in your
00:10:05 --> 00:10:08 summary, I really felt it was important to use
00:10:08 --> 00:10:11 botanical ingredients, largely because I don't
00:10:11 --> 00:10:14 believe in killing animals to survive. But that's
00:10:14 --> 00:10:18 my philosophy. I know people have different views,
00:10:18 --> 00:10:21 but I still stick to using botanical ingredients.
00:10:21 --> 00:10:24 And the other thing is botanical ingredients
00:10:24 --> 00:10:29 have been used for thousands of years by civilizations.
00:10:31 --> 00:10:34 Ayurvedic medicine, traditional Chinese medicine
00:10:34 --> 00:10:37 and other forms of Hinduistic form of medicine
00:10:37 --> 00:10:41 were based on using botanical elements very successfully.
00:10:41 --> 00:10:43 They just didn't know how they worked because
00:10:43 --> 00:10:47 of the knowledge we have today. That's a different
00:10:47 --> 00:10:50 story. Thank you so much for that wonderful introduction
00:10:50 --> 00:10:53 and letting our audiences know a bit of your
00:10:53 --> 00:10:56 background. and your thoughts so that it would
00:10:56 --> 00:10:58 really help them to coordinate as we progress
00:10:58 --> 00:11:00 through the podcast and many different topics
00:11:00 --> 00:11:03 we're going to talk about today about skin, health,
00:11:03 --> 00:11:06 and lifestyle. Just to begin, Dr. Fernanda, I
00:11:06 --> 00:11:09 wanted to ask you, how do lifestyle, diet, and
00:11:09 --> 00:11:13 stress affect our health, including skin health?
00:11:14 --> 00:11:17 Okay, so as I mentioned, we're sort of all connected.
00:11:18 --> 00:11:20 Trying to make it simple and see it in the form
00:11:20 --> 00:11:24 of a triangle. We have our brain. Our brain that
00:11:24 --> 00:11:27 has various parts, as you know, being a medical
00:11:27 --> 00:11:30 doctor, and we have a little part of the brain
00:11:30 --> 00:11:32 called the hypothalamus, and then we have an
00:11:32 --> 00:11:35 even smaller part, the pituitary. And when we
00:11:35 --> 00:11:39 are stressed, these parts of our brain sort of
00:11:39 --> 00:11:41 start getting a little bit agitated, and they
00:11:41 --> 00:11:45 send messages which go in our circulation, in
00:11:45 --> 00:11:48 our bloodstream. And these little messages...
00:11:48 --> 00:11:51 go past an area above the kidneys called the
00:11:51 --> 00:11:55 adrenals, and these glands produce cortisol.
00:11:56 --> 00:11:58 So here we are, you're stressed in your brain,
00:11:58 --> 00:12:02 but in a further, you know, in a faraway part
00:12:02 --> 00:12:04 of your body, in the top of your kidneys, these
00:12:04 --> 00:12:07 adrenals are pushing cortisol out. And cortisol
00:12:07 --> 00:12:11 are these stress molecules that kind of raise
00:12:11 --> 00:12:13 your blood pressure, and they make sure that
00:12:13 --> 00:12:15 adrenaline is flowing well, so you feel tense.
00:12:16 --> 00:12:21 People largely don't know is that these cortisols
00:12:21 --> 00:12:24 floating around, they get to our skin and they
00:12:24 --> 00:12:28 stimulate a layer of cells in the sort of dermis
00:12:28 --> 00:12:32 to produce cortisols as well. So now our immune
00:12:32 --> 00:12:35 systems are producing cortisols. So in this frenetic
00:12:35 --> 00:12:39 state, we are not well. If we're not well, we
00:12:39 --> 00:12:43 don't feel well. What happens is that we use
00:12:43 --> 00:12:48 up so much energy. for our immune system to kind
00:12:48 --> 00:12:52 of cope with what's happening, this stress, that
00:12:52 --> 00:12:56 we divert attention from other areas where the
00:12:56 --> 00:12:59 immune system needs to keep ongoing monitoring.
00:13:00 --> 00:13:03 So if you sustain a constant level of stress,
00:13:03 --> 00:13:07 your immune system is going to feel weaker and
00:13:07 --> 00:13:11 is going to allow certain things to slip through
00:13:11 --> 00:13:15 because they can't be doing well everywhere.
00:13:16 --> 00:13:19 If your lifestyle is such that you're continuously
00:13:19 --> 00:13:23 on the edge, you have long hours and you're feeling
00:13:23 --> 00:13:25 unhappy in the way in which you're working. So
00:13:25 --> 00:13:28 you kind of start getting a melting point, a
00:13:28 --> 00:13:33 melting pot. And what happens is that the more
00:13:33 --> 00:13:36 stressed you are, the more you release these
00:13:36 --> 00:13:39 molecules and the more you stress. It's like
00:13:39 --> 00:13:43 a corkscrew. Now, take the other scenario. If
00:13:43 --> 00:13:46 you take the time. to relax. The weight of your
00:13:46 --> 00:13:50 podcast is very timely for the kinds of messages
00:13:50 --> 00:13:54 that I'm trying to put across. So if you actively
00:13:54 --> 00:13:58 take cognizance that you are in a very stressed
00:13:58 --> 00:14:04 point, stop and start eating deeply and slowly,
00:14:04 --> 00:14:08 but breathe from your groin. Most of us, when
00:14:08 --> 00:14:10 we are stressed, we breathe from the top of our
00:14:10 --> 00:14:13 shoulders, you know, so the top of our lungs
00:14:13 --> 00:14:17 kind of get hiked up. So just stop and breathe
00:14:17 --> 00:14:23 slow and long breaths. And that helps the brain
00:14:23 --> 00:14:26 to shift mode. It's like you're shifting a gear
00:14:26 --> 00:14:29 in the car. You manually have to push the gear
00:14:29 --> 00:14:33 lever into a different position. And now the
00:14:33 --> 00:14:38 brain is getting. signals that's okay. Maybe
00:14:38 --> 00:14:41 we can do something else that is different. And
00:14:41 --> 00:14:47 gradually, instead of sending out these pituitary
00:14:47 --> 00:14:51 molecules that go to the adrenals, you start
00:14:51 --> 00:14:54 releasing endorphins as well. Endorphins are
00:14:54 --> 00:14:58 natural opiates, which compensate for the stressful
00:14:58 --> 00:15:03 levels. So if you can sustain that point of calmness,
00:15:04 --> 00:15:08 That point of being at one with whatever is happening
00:15:08 --> 00:15:13 with you, just accepting it and loving it. And
00:15:13 --> 00:15:15 I'll come to the love in a minute for something
00:15:15 --> 00:15:20 else. Your brain relaxes. And even if your lifestyle
00:15:20 --> 00:15:25 is crazy, you are able to be more sensible or
00:15:25 --> 00:15:28 logical at dealing with whatever trauma is happening
00:15:28 --> 00:15:34 around you. And your skin. is your manifestation
00:15:34 --> 00:15:37 because what happens if you're stressed, often
00:15:37 --> 00:15:41 you break out with acne. Sometimes you get a
00:15:41 --> 00:15:44 funny sort of uncomfortable feeling. You feel
00:15:44 --> 00:15:48 like scratching your skin and you can't really
00:15:48 --> 00:15:52 understand why. And, you know, there's also another
00:15:52 --> 00:15:55 very important relationship is that The skin
00:15:55 --> 00:15:59 on our cells are etymologically, evolutionarily
00:15:59 --> 00:16:03 related to those of our guts because that's how
00:16:03 --> 00:16:06 the embryo, when the sperm and the egg get together
00:16:06 --> 00:16:10 to form an egg and how the egg then evolves,
00:16:10 --> 00:16:14 the skin on the outside and the gut inside are
00:16:14 --> 00:16:18 from the same form of epithelium. It's just sort
00:16:18 --> 00:16:22 of an image of... The ink which forms a kind
00:16:22 --> 00:16:24 of a gastrulin in the little bag inside. The
00:16:24 --> 00:16:27 skin outside goes inside to form the lining of
00:16:27 --> 00:16:31 the gut. And so what happens, whatever happens
00:16:31 --> 00:16:36 in your brain that is making you tense or calm,
00:16:36 --> 00:16:40 through a very long nerve called the vagus nerve,
00:16:40 --> 00:16:43 there's communication between the brain and the
00:16:43 --> 00:16:47 gut. So what you feel on your gut, you feel on
00:16:47 --> 00:16:51 your skin and vice versa. So you can't separate
00:16:51 --> 00:16:56 the way you think, where you live, from the way
00:16:56 --> 00:17:01 you look. So skin and health, lifestyle, are
00:17:01 --> 00:17:06 absolutely related to each other. And it is important
00:17:06 --> 00:17:10 that you take cognizance of that. It's like you
00:17:10 --> 00:17:12 wake up in the morning and you choose, I'm going
00:17:12 --> 00:17:18 to choose to be angry and resentful. And I don't
00:17:18 --> 00:17:22 like anyone. I hate everyone. Everyone hates
00:17:22 --> 00:17:26 me. Or you choose, I'm going to feel good. I'm
00:17:26 --> 00:17:30 going to enjoy. I'm away. There's sun outside.
00:17:30 --> 00:17:34 There's rain outside. I'm feeling good. So which
00:17:34 --> 00:17:38 one do you want to be? Indeed. You have to take
00:17:38 --> 00:17:43 active action. It's fitting. For sure. Thank
00:17:43 --> 00:17:45 you so much for very wonderfully connecting that,
00:17:46 --> 00:17:49 doctor. Fernanda, and actually that brought to
00:17:49 --> 00:17:51 me to my second question, and kind of you were
00:17:51 --> 00:17:54 answering that as you're going, that why skincare
00:17:54 --> 00:17:59 is very important to feel great and stay healthy.
00:17:59 --> 00:18:03 I feel like it's all interconnected. And usually
00:18:03 --> 00:18:05 the audiences and the listeners and mass people
00:18:05 --> 00:18:09 wouldn't feel like why, how my skin would affect
00:18:09 --> 00:18:11 my mental health or how my skin would affect
00:18:11 --> 00:18:15 my health at all. There is like deep connection
00:18:15 --> 00:18:18 that usually we don't foresee or we don't understand
00:18:18 --> 00:18:22 clearly sometimes, but it's very helpful to understand
00:18:22 --> 00:18:24 the connections between them. So why skincare
00:18:24 --> 00:18:27 is key to feeling great and staying healthy?
00:18:28 --> 00:18:31 Yes. And this is where the love component comes
00:18:31 --> 00:18:35 about. And you know this, when you were a teenager,
00:18:35 --> 00:18:38 remember how important it was to look good, you
00:18:38 --> 00:18:41 know, and you always felt. You always felt that
00:18:41 --> 00:18:44 somebody else looked better than you because
00:18:44 --> 00:18:48 it's just how teenagers feel. And nowadays, if
00:18:48 --> 00:18:52 we think of social media the way it is, social
00:18:52 --> 00:18:57 media creates these idols that we look to because
00:18:57 --> 00:19:00 they look phenomenal and everyone thinks that
00:19:00 --> 00:19:03 they look just like they look on camera. I can
00:19:03 --> 00:19:05 assure you when they wake up in the morning,
00:19:05 --> 00:19:08 they look as bad or as good as we do. They're
00:19:08 --> 00:19:11 able to put all sorts of makeup and stretch themselves,
00:19:12 --> 00:19:14 then pump themselves up to feel good. And we
00:19:14 --> 00:19:17 think that they're born like that. They're not.
00:19:17 --> 00:19:21 Born like everybody else. So why skin is important
00:19:21 --> 00:19:24 is because, first of all, as I've said, it is
00:19:24 --> 00:19:28 connected to the gut. Of course, it's connected
00:19:28 --> 00:19:31 to everything in our body because none of our
00:19:31 --> 00:19:34 organs are separated. They're all stacked on
00:19:34 --> 00:19:38 top of each other. communications, whether the
00:19:38 --> 00:19:41 communication is via these signaling molecules
00:19:41 --> 00:19:44 that go, say, for instance, as I was talking,
00:19:44 --> 00:19:47 from the pituitary to the adrenal or to anywhere
00:19:47 --> 00:19:52 else, that will pass through the bloodstream.
00:19:52 --> 00:19:55 But there's also communication between one cell
00:19:55 --> 00:19:58 and another adjacent cells. So there's all these
00:19:58 --> 00:20:01 molecules that continuously pass through, and
00:20:01 --> 00:20:06 it's like crosstalk. So you can't say something
00:20:06 --> 00:20:10 on my skin is very far away from my gut or my
00:20:10 --> 00:20:13 lungs. No, not at all. It's actually doesn't
00:20:13 --> 00:20:16 take very long at all. In fact, there is scientific
00:20:16 --> 00:20:20 evidence to show that it takes 26 seconds from
00:20:20 --> 00:20:23 something that you apply on your skin to be absorbed.
00:20:24 --> 00:20:30 Right around the body, 26 seconds. That's fast.
00:20:31 --> 00:20:34 It's very fast. And that is because, of course,
00:20:34 --> 00:20:38 our skin is a barrier. But as you know, it's
00:20:38 --> 00:20:41 a semi -permeable barrier. If it was a full barrier,
00:20:42 --> 00:20:44 we wouldn't be able to breathe. But it's a semi
00:20:44 --> 00:20:47 -permeable barrier. So it takes up water. It
00:20:47 --> 00:20:53 loses water. It takes up oils and it pushes out
00:20:53 --> 00:20:57 its own oils from the sebaceous glands, which
00:20:57 --> 00:21:02 when they get affected by the microbiome. on
00:21:02 --> 00:21:06 our skin. This microbiome then gets encapsulated
00:21:06 --> 00:21:09 in the pores leading up to the glands. The glands
00:21:09 --> 00:21:13 are a little bit excited. The microorganisms
00:21:13 --> 00:21:16 now are inside a little prison and they are,
00:21:17 --> 00:21:21 normally they would be aerobic microbes. Now
00:21:21 --> 00:21:24 they become aerobic. They can live without oxygen
00:21:24 --> 00:21:28 or little oxygen and they start becoming like
00:21:29 --> 00:21:31 little naughty kids. And that's how you get the
00:21:31 --> 00:21:34 breakup. There's one sort of component why the
00:21:34 --> 00:21:38 skin is important as a semi -permeable barrier.
00:21:38 --> 00:21:41 It's working one way and the other. I'll come
00:21:41 --> 00:21:43 back to this in a minute, but just to carry on
00:21:43 --> 00:21:47 another aspect, your skin is also innervated.
00:21:47 --> 00:21:50 So it's got little nerve endings all over. That's
00:21:50 --> 00:21:52 how you can feel pain. Otherwise you wouldn't.
00:21:53 --> 00:21:56 In as much as you feel pain because you bumped
00:21:56 --> 00:21:58 your arm against something and it's hurt you,
00:21:58 --> 00:22:02 you can also enjoy the fact that you're looking
00:22:02 --> 00:22:04 after your skin. And this is a very important
00:22:04 --> 00:22:09 point, the function of why we should look after
00:22:09 --> 00:22:13 our skin. So if your skin is dry, it feels scaly
00:22:13 --> 00:22:22 or off. a cream or an ointment or a lotion or
00:22:22 --> 00:22:25 an oil to soften it, you're going to be doing
00:22:25 --> 00:22:29 it gently as if, and I mean this, as if you were
00:22:29 --> 00:22:33 making love to your skin. You very gently make
00:22:33 --> 00:22:37 sure that you treat your skin with love. And
00:22:37 --> 00:22:41 if you massage it gently, whatever you put on
00:22:41 --> 00:22:44 your skin is absorbed more efficiently than if
00:22:44 --> 00:22:47 you rub. I see this regularly. People have something
00:22:47 --> 00:22:51 that's, you know, they have some irritation and
00:22:51 --> 00:22:53 they put a cream and they rub it. The more they
00:22:53 --> 00:22:57 rub, the more they are irritating the skin because
00:22:57 --> 00:23:01 they stimulate the little capillaries to get
00:23:01 --> 00:23:04 warmer and more blood comes to the top. So now
00:23:04 --> 00:23:06 you're irritating it further. So what you want
00:23:06 --> 00:23:09 to do is make love to your skin, you know, really
00:23:09 --> 00:23:14 glide your hand. That has a positive effect in
00:23:14 --> 00:23:18 making you feel good. Because it's touch. Human
00:23:18 --> 00:23:23 beings are social beings. We need touch. In fact,
00:23:23 --> 00:23:27 that really goes for most mammals, really. You'll
00:23:27 --> 00:23:31 notice in other primates, they have different
00:23:31 --> 00:23:35 lifestyles. But the infants still feel they need
00:23:35 --> 00:23:38 to hug the moms or the other family members.
00:23:39 --> 00:23:42 And even with birds, there's some sort of association
00:23:42 --> 00:23:47 of the birds having to feel. proximity to the
00:23:47 --> 00:23:50 parents, even though it may be a different form
00:23:50 --> 00:23:53 of relationship. So we're very dependent on having
00:23:53 --> 00:23:57 good touch. Of course, if you hurt yourself,
00:23:57 --> 00:24:00 the nerve endings on your skin are there to say,
00:24:00 --> 00:24:03 hello, wake up. You know, you've done something
00:24:03 --> 00:24:05 wrong to yourself. You've got to go and look
00:24:05 --> 00:24:09 after it. So very important to have that relationship.
00:24:09 --> 00:24:13 The other thing is, so coming back to the microbiome
00:24:13 --> 00:24:19 on our skin. Our skin has a layer of bacteria
00:24:19 --> 00:24:23 and yeasts and anything else that we pick up
00:24:23 --> 00:24:26 from the environment, which largely remain in
00:24:26 --> 00:24:30 a kind of a symbiotic, very happy relationship
00:24:30 --> 00:24:35 most of the time. Now and then things go wrong.
00:24:35 --> 00:24:38 So you catch yourself and of course you can get
00:24:38 --> 00:24:41 infected. not just because of what was in the
00:24:41 --> 00:24:44 environment, but some of the microbes on your
00:24:44 --> 00:24:47 skin will probably get in and we get a nice little
00:24:47 --> 00:24:50 soup of something. So you have to disinfect it
00:24:50 --> 00:24:54 and sew it up, stitch it up, and you're back
00:24:54 --> 00:24:59 again on normal. But the skin is relying on two
00:24:59 --> 00:25:03 things, that the microbe layers acting in a kind
00:25:03 --> 00:25:07 of a happy approach with our skin cells. And
00:25:07 --> 00:25:12 that the pH of our skin is the right pH for the
00:25:12 --> 00:25:16 microbiome. And it needs the right pH for another
00:25:16 --> 00:25:21 reason too. So the skin is actually fostering
00:25:21 --> 00:25:25 the environment to be ideal for the microbiome
00:25:25 --> 00:25:28 to be on the skin. Because it's this microbiome
00:25:28 --> 00:25:32 that sends messages, just like the cells send
00:25:32 --> 00:25:37 messages to each other to say, we are okay. But
00:25:37 --> 00:25:39 you need to produce a little bit more oil so
00:25:39 --> 00:25:44 that there is a barrier of oil on the skin to
00:25:44 --> 00:25:49 make sure that the skin is fully dried out. If
00:25:49 --> 00:25:51 the skin is too dried out, this is the irony
00:25:51 --> 00:25:54 of the whole thing, you have the top layer of
00:25:54 --> 00:25:57 skin which needs to be sloughed off. But it can't
00:25:57 --> 00:26:03 because the enzymes that cut off the old cells.
00:26:04 --> 00:26:08 from the lay immediately below can't work without
00:26:08 --> 00:26:14 water. So when you're dehydrated, what do you
00:26:14 --> 00:26:18 get? You get very dry skin that forms crust that
00:26:18 --> 00:26:23 can't come out. So you need to drink lots of
00:26:23 --> 00:26:27 water. So the water from inside comes all the
00:26:27 --> 00:26:30 way out, but you need to keep adding lots of
00:26:30 --> 00:26:33 water. And you need to maintain the environment
00:26:33 --> 00:26:38 that enables the microorganisms to stimulate
00:26:38 --> 00:26:44 the dermal cells just enough so that the glands
00:26:44 --> 00:26:51 produce what's necessary without it. So if you,
00:26:51 --> 00:26:54 for instance, you have breakout in the common
00:26:54 --> 00:26:57 cell getting around the chin and you're going
00:26:57 --> 00:27:01 very harsh detergent. to get rid of all these
00:27:01 --> 00:27:04 horrible things that are on your skin. What happens
00:27:04 --> 00:27:08 is that you're sending a signal down to the glands
00:27:08 --> 00:27:11 and the cells kind of pick up, oh, there's no
00:27:11 --> 00:27:14 oils on top. Well, we've got to produce some
00:27:14 --> 00:27:16 more. So guess what happens? It becomes more
00:27:16 --> 00:27:20 oily. Oh, I see. What you should be doing is
00:27:20 --> 00:27:24 make sure that the skin is always cleansed, always
00:27:24 --> 00:27:29 properly looked after. Put a layer of a protective
00:27:29 --> 00:27:35 cream that provides a support mechanism to ensure
00:27:35 --> 00:27:38 that you're not losing water, you're not losing
00:27:38 --> 00:27:41 oil, that the bugs that are on top, you know,
00:27:41 --> 00:27:46 the microbiomes. Yes. So you are coming to a
00:27:46 --> 00:27:50 form of an equilibrium. And this is all about
00:27:50 --> 00:27:55 balancing. life one way and another. Sometimes
00:27:55 --> 00:27:58 we have a little bit more or less, but we need
00:27:58 --> 00:28:01 to have these sort of small steps. You don't
00:28:01 --> 00:28:04 want to have peaks and troughs that are huge.
00:28:04 --> 00:28:07 You want to have just little waves. If you understand
00:28:07 --> 00:28:12 this, and if you consciously, actively say to
00:28:12 --> 00:28:18 yourself, I am going to love my skin, regardless
00:28:18 --> 00:28:22 of pimple, breakouts, dryness. I'm going to love
00:28:22 --> 00:28:26 it because it's part of me. I love it. So the
00:28:26 --> 00:28:30 very fact that you've taken cognizance to say
00:28:30 --> 00:28:33 the word love, the word love, by the way, is
00:28:33 --> 00:28:36 associated with the release of oxytocin, which
00:28:36 --> 00:28:40 is the hormone, the hormone that leads females
00:28:40 --> 00:28:45 to initiate lactation, breastfeeding of babies.
00:28:45 --> 00:28:49 The fact that we now have oxytocin flowing and
00:28:49 --> 00:28:54 we have. endorphins flowing, you feel better.
00:28:54 --> 00:28:57 And in feeling better, you are helping your own
00:28:57 --> 00:29:03 body to manage the acne condition or the drying
00:29:03 --> 00:29:08 condition that you have. Okay. And anything else
00:29:08 --> 00:29:12 that is wrong, of course, it won't be instant.
00:29:12 --> 00:29:16 This is not a magic trick. We don't have one
00:29:16 --> 00:29:21 that goes bing, gone. No, we don't. It takes
00:29:21 --> 00:29:25 time, but everything takes time. And why shouldn't
00:29:25 --> 00:29:28 it take time? Don't give up, you know, because,
00:29:28 --> 00:29:31 oh, I need to go to a party and I have a pimple
00:29:31 --> 00:29:34 in my nose. Okay. Do what you can to kind of
00:29:34 --> 00:29:37 cover up the pimple on your nose. Right. You
00:29:37 --> 00:29:40 know, it's my decoration. Maybe paint a little
00:29:40 --> 00:29:44 flower around it so it actually, you know, you
00:29:44 --> 00:29:49 have a decoration on your nose. Or someone. I'm
00:29:49 --> 00:29:50 being silly, if you see what I mean. That's a
00:29:50 --> 00:29:53 wonderful idea. I like that, Dr. Fernanda. Just
00:29:53 --> 00:29:58 make it fun so you don't feel belittled. Because
00:29:58 --> 00:30:01 what, and I know we've seen this in the Western
00:30:01 --> 00:30:04 world, and you probably can see the differences
00:30:04 --> 00:30:07 having come from Bangladesh. There's so many
00:30:07 --> 00:30:11 kids in our Western world that are entering this
00:30:11 --> 00:30:14 game of bullying and kids committing suicide
00:30:14 --> 00:30:18 because they're bullied. That's terrible. That
00:30:18 --> 00:30:22 is terrible. They feel belittled because they
00:30:22 --> 00:30:25 feel uglier than others and someone targets them.
00:30:26 --> 00:30:29 That is so sad. Look, one of the things I would
00:30:29 --> 00:30:33 love to be able to do, and that is part of a
00:30:33 --> 00:30:37 future dream of mine. It's got nothing to do
00:30:37 --> 00:30:40 with skincare, but I'd love to have the means
00:30:40 --> 00:30:44 to create a foundation to encourage kids. to
00:30:44 --> 00:30:49 learn from early on that loving yourself and
00:30:49 --> 00:30:52 being good to yourself, caring yourself is the
00:30:52 --> 00:30:55 way to be. And there's so many kids all over
00:30:55 --> 00:30:57 the world. I don't care. Kids are kids. Whether
00:30:57 --> 00:31:01 you come from a very deprived background or very
00:31:01 --> 00:31:04 wealthy one, kids are kids. We shouldn't be.
00:31:05 --> 00:31:08 not having enough to eat or not being able to
00:31:08 --> 00:31:10 go to school or having to work because they have
00:31:10 --> 00:31:13 to help the family. I understand, but let them
00:31:13 --> 00:31:17 be kids as well. And I'd love to be able to do
00:31:17 --> 00:31:22 that. So for me, having developed a skincare
00:31:22 --> 00:31:25 product or a variety of products, it's not so
00:31:25 --> 00:31:28 much because, as I said to you, I don't, not
00:31:28 --> 00:31:31 at all want people to feel that our products
00:31:31 --> 00:31:34 make you feel 20 years younger. years younger,
00:31:34 --> 00:31:38 but I mean, the products will help you to feel
00:31:38 --> 00:31:45 like when you were 10 years or 15 or whatever,
00:31:45 --> 00:31:49 when you felt you were feeling good, and that's
00:31:49 --> 00:31:52 what we need. We're all going to die. Why do
00:31:52 --> 00:31:56 we need to kill each other unhappy? Just have
00:31:56 --> 00:32:03 fun. Enjoy the precious gift that life is. And
00:32:03 --> 00:32:07 most of us do have a precious gift. There's horrible
00:32:07 --> 00:32:10 wars in the war right now, which breaks my heart.
00:32:10 --> 00:32:14 I do wish I had the magic wand to say, bing,
00:32:14 --> 00:32:18 and stop the whole lot. I don't. But if I can
00:32:18 --> 00:32:23 help people to feel good and start loving your
00:32:23 --> 00:32:28 skin, because it's part of your body, it's part
00:32:28 --> 00:32:32 of your well -being. If you feel good in your
00:32:32 --> 00:32:35 mind, it's what I talk about. You've seen me
00:32:35 --> 00:32:39 talking about how the mind is crucial for the
00:32:39 --> 00:32:42 body set. Because we talk about mindset. We need
00:32:42 --> 00:32:46 to have a body set as well. Sure. We are together.
00:32:46 --> 00:32:49 I really appreciate that thought, Dr. Fernanda.
00:32:49 --> 00:32:52 There are people, I feel like there are less
00:32:52 --> 00:32:55 people who care about all the body organs and
00:32:55 --> 00:32:59 the body. do take like least care of their skin
00:32:59 --> 00:33:02 it's not a feasible thing to do and it needs
00:33:02 --> 00:33:06 so people like i feel like sometimes underappreciate
00:33:06 --> 00:33:08 their skin and that may be due to the lack of
00:33:08 --> 00:33:11 understanding how important this body organ of
00:33:11 --> 00:33:14 it's yours because it's not only like representing
00:33:14 --> 00:33:16 you it's a protecting layer right it's protecting
00:33:16 --> 00:33:18 you from the environment when you're outside
00:33:18 --> 00:33:22 you're getting direct exposure to sunlight you're
00:33:22 --> 00:33:24 getting direct exposure to the environment And
00:33:24 --> 00:33:27 it's protecting you first and foremost, your
00:33:27 --> 00:33:30 organs and everything from the outside, environment
00:33:30 --> 00:33:33 and contact. So it's natural that your skin or
00:33:33 --> 00:33:36 the skin that will, as it's protecting you, it
00:33:36 --> 00:33:40 will have friction with the environment. It will
00:33:40 --> 00:33:42 have friction with the air. So if you don't take
00:33:42 --> 00:33:45 care of it, it won't take care of you. So it's
00:33:45 --> 00:33:48 very important to have that in mind. Yeah, absolutely.
00:33:49 --> 00:33:52 And, you know, and the thing is, when that becomes
00:33:52 --> 00:33:57 part of you, Your friends and your kids will
00:33:57 --> 00:34:01 see it as well, your family. And it becomes almost
00:34:01 --> 00:34:05 like people learn from you by diffusion. You
00:34:05 --> 00:34:07 see what I mean? You don't have to tell them.
00:34:07 --> 00:34:10 It just becomes apparent. How come you look so
00:34:10 --> 00:34:13 good? I always look after myself. You don't have
00:34:13 --> 00:34:16 to have fancy clothes. You don't have to live
00:34:16 --> 00:34:18 in a fancy place. But you need to be sensible
00:34:18 --> 00:34:21 about everything that you do, simple things.
00:34:21 --> 00:34:23 And don't harm the environment because that was
00:34:23 --> 00:34:27 another thing. We don't want to be using resources
00:34:27 --> 00:34:30 in the environment, like making sure that the
00:34:30 --> 00:34:33 Amazon forests are devastated just because we
00:34:33 --> 00:34:36 want a special ingredient for us. Be sensible.
00:34:36 --> 00:34:39 And the other thing is very important. I think
00:34:39 --> 00:34:43 you've... seen this in some of my writing use
00:34:43 --> 00:34:48 less is more so the reason why for years and
00:34:48 --> 00:34:52 years we've been faced with this kind of guidance
00:34:52 --> 00:34:55 oh you know splash it on use lots splash it on
00:34:55 --> 00:34:59 it's not so much because skin needs lots of product
00:34:59 --> 00:35:03 it doesn't just needs the rate at which it can
00:35:03 --> 00:35:07 absorb which sometimes is not very much but needs
00:35:07 --> 00:35:10 to be done every day But the reason why the companies
00:35:10 --> 00:35:12 tend to say splash it on is because they sell
00:35:12 --> 00:35:15 more. If they sell more, the companies have more
00:35:15 --> 00:35:22 sales. It's a commercial decision. But you can
00:35:22 --> 00:35:26 take action. You can be active and decide, I
00:35:26 --> 00:35:30 only need this much. I use it every day. That's
00:35:30 --> 00:35:34 all I need. And it lasts me longer than wasting
00:35:34 --> 00:35:36 it. What's the point of wasting? So we waste
00:35:36 --> 00:35:40 bottles. We waste. other ingredients, and then
00:35:40 --> 00:35:43 we have to do it all over again. That's so silly.
00:35:43 --> 00:35:47 It's so silly. It does not make any sense at
00:35:47 --> 00:35:50 all. And I say this from the scientific point
00:35:50 --> 00:35:54 of view, from the biological point of view, from
00:35:54 --> 00:35:57 the health point of view, from the environmental
00:35:57 --> 00:36:00 point of view, and from the economic point of
00:36:00 --> 00:36:03 view. You can't sustain an economy that keeps
00:36:03 --> 00:36:07 growing and growing and growing. It's going to
00:36:07 --> 00:36:11 implode. Indeed, indeed. Thank you so much, Dr.
00:36:11 --> 00:36:14 Fernanda, for sharing those wonderful words of
00:36:14 --> 00:36:17 wisdom. And that is what I meant by words of
00:36:17 --> 00:36:19 wisdom, dear listeners, when we first started
00:36:19 --> 00:36:23 this podcast. I hope that you're understanding
00:36:23 --> 00:36:26 the value of what your skin brings to you and
00:36:26 --> 00:36:29 what that actually would mean and how you should
00:36:29 --> 00:36:32 take care of that. As like Dr. Fernanda made
00:36:32 --> 00:36:36 the point by not disrupting the nature. By not
00:36:36 --> 00:36:39 being resource intensive, we talk about having
00:36:39 --> 00:36:43 botanical ingredients for skin care. And there
00:36:43 --> 00:36:46 is a reason for that. Speaking of the elements
00:36:46 --> 00:36:49 that are very helpful for our skin and health
00:36:49 --> 00:36:54 as well. Can I ask you which nutrients, ingredients
00:36:54 --> 00:36:58 and approaches do you feel are really essential
00:36:58 --> 00:37:02 for health, body and mind from your experience
00:37:02 --> 00:37:06 and perspective? Okay, so a balanced diet is
00:37:06 --> 00:37:09 a no -brainer. And when a balanced diet is a
00:37:09 --> 00:37:14 diet that has enough water, it has the ingredients
00:37:14 --> 00:37:19 that are safe. From a vegetarian point of view,
00:37:19 --> 00:37:22 and just put a few things out, you need to have
00:37:22 --> 00:37:25 good greens, you know, so your carbohydrates
00:37:25 --> 00:37:30 are good, but you have enough roughage. You have
00:37:30 --> 00:37:32 enough protein and the protein will come in the
00:37:32 --> 00:37:35 form of some of the vegetables that we have have
00:37:35 --> 00:37:38 protein and some fruits have protein as well.
00:37:38 --> 00:37:42 So how you combine them, how we add the fats
00:37:42 --> 00:37:46 that will come from nuts and seeds. I know some
00:37:46 --> 00:37:48 people are allergic to nuts, so we have to be
00:37:48 --> 00:37:51 careful with that as well, of course. And how
00:37:51 --> 00:37:56 you use, for instance, if we go more towards
00:37:56 --> 00:37:59 the... Not so much from a vegan diet, but from
00:37:59 --> 00:38:03 a vegetarian diet where people do use some dairy
00:38:03 --> 00:38:06 products and some eggs. Those are very important.
00:38:06 --> 00:38:09 For people that have vegan ingredients, they
00:38:09 --> 00:38:12 have to make sure that they get enough protein
00:38:12 --> 00:38:16 to compensate for the fact that plant -based
00:38:16 --> 00:38:19 diets will have less protein. So you have to
00:38:19 --> 00:38:23 make sure you are enriching that. And all your
00:38:23 --> 00:38:26 greens, all your fruits. Make sure that your
00:38:26 --> 00:38:30 fruits, you have a balance of the citric fruits
00:38:30 --> 00:38:33 like the berries, as well as the fruits that
00:38:33 --> 00:38:37 have other sources of proteins and carbohydrates.
00:38:37 --> 00:38:41 It could be the pawpaws, the mangoes, the apples,
00:38:41 --> 00:38:45 the bananas. But the whole point is to have a
00:38:45 --> 00:38:49 balanced diet. So it's a mixture. And try and
00:38:49 --> 00:38:53 have those vegetables, fruits. oils that are
00:38:53 --> 00:38:56 in season. Nowadays, I suppose in the world,
00:38:56 --> 00:38:59 you can buy things all year round. But if you
00:38:59 --> 00:39:02 are in an area that doesn't, in the sort of winter
00:39:02 --> 00:39:05 time, you have a certain type of fruits and vegetables.
00:39:05 --> 00:39:08 So eat those because they will have the maximum
00:39:08 --> 00:39:12 nutrition at the time. When you eat those in
00:39:12 --> 00:39:16 another season, they've been stored under refrigerated
00:39:16 --> 00:39:20 conditions, low carbon dioxide. And often the
00:39:20 --> 00:39:24 active ingredients become less active, you know,
00:39:24 --> 00:39:26 they'll sort of go a little bit old and they
00:39:26 --> 00:39:30 won't be quite as important in terms of nutrition
00:39:30 --> 00:39:33 or antioxidants. So if you eat what's in season,
00:39:34 --> 00:39:38 that helps you. And the same thing goes for skin.
00:39:38 --> 00:39:41 So for skincare products, instead of having the
00:39:41 --> 00:39:45 synthetic ingredients that are very controlled,
00:39:45 --> 00:39:49 very well made, you could have a mixture of Your
00:39:49 --> 00:39:53 oil blends, which are the macadamia nuts, the
00:39:53 --> 00:39:56 coconuts, the rich oil, the flaxseed oil, the
00:39:56 --> 00:40:00 jojoba, all these oils have different fatty acids.
00:40:00 --> 00:40:05 And these fatty acids provide a form of nutrition
00:40:05 --> 00:40:08 for our skin. Some that are more similar to the
00:40:08 --> 00:40:12 oils in our skin. These are absorbed into the
00:40:12 --> 00:40:15 skin and circulate in the body that are helpful.
00:40:15 --> 00:40:18 for general nutrition and then the other things
00:40:18 --> 00:40:22 that you need to consider that you know everyone
00:40:22 --> 00:40:25 needs to recognize not not everyone can eat the
00:40:25 --> 00:40:28 same thing so if if there's something that upsets
00:40:28 --> 00:40:31 your stomach then don't eat it you know because
00:40:31 --> 00:40:33 if it upsets your stomach it will show in your
00:40:33 --> 00:40:38 skin anyway and that's yeah for sure and if it's
00:40:38 --> 00:40:40 something that you put on your skin that doesn't
00:40:40 --> 00:40:43 agree with you Because it's quite a reaction.
00:40:44 --> 00:40:47 You should stop it as well. So the most important
00:40:47 --> 00:40:52 thing is to take cognizance. And you do this,
00:40:52 --> 00:40:55 you do it almost in a subconscious way, but you
00:40:55 --> 00:40:57 need to be conscious. It's like you're not aware
00:40:57 --> 00:41:00 that you're breathing, but you are breathing.
00:41:01 --> 00:41:05 And I would say, don't rush things. Have something
00:41:05 --> 00:41:08 in the morning as part of your breakfast, whatever
00:41:08 --> 00:41:10 your breakfast routine is, have something in
00:41:10 --> 00:41:12 the middle of the day and something at night.
00:41:13 --> 00:41:16 Why do I say that? It's because we use energy
00:41:16 --> 00:41:19 during the day. So we need to have a supply energy
00:41:19 --> 00:41:22 for our bodies, for our brains to function. Our
00:41:22 --> 00:41:25 brains need sugar and we can only get sugar through
00:41:25 --> 00:41:28 the foods that we eat in the day. The skin is
00:41:28 --> 00:41:31 the same. The skin will need to be treated in
00:41:31 --> 00:41:34 the morning. And largely to be treated at night.
00:41:34 --> 00:41:38 If you are very dependent because your skin is
00:41:38 --> 00:41:41 so dry, you might have to put something during
00:41:41 --> 00:41:43 the day. If you are in the sun, you need to use
00:41:43 --> 00:41:48 sunscreen. But one thing that I would be really
00:41:48 --> 00:41:51 against is people ask me, can I have one product?
00:41:51 --> 00:41:54 I only want one product to put in in the day
00:41:54 --> 00:41:58 and not use any other time in the day. And I
00:41:58 --> 00:42:01 say to them, how about food? Would you like me?
00:42:01 --> 00:42:04 to put your breakfast, lunch and dinner in the
00:42:04 --> 00:42:07 blender, your desserts and your fruits, your
00:42:07 --> 00:42:10 vegetables, your soups, your meats, your fish,
00:42:10 --> 00:42:12 everything. We put everything in the blender
00:42:12 --> 00:42:15 and I'll just give you a cup in the morning.
00:42:15 --> 00:42:18 How about that? Would you like that? And then
00:42:18 --> 00:42:22 people get it. So you need to have something
00:42:22 --> 00:42:25 to eat a few times during the day and different
00:42:25 --> 00:42:29 cultures do different things. So I'm not going
00:42:29 --> 00:42:32 against any culture. I'm just saying, Use the
00:42:32 --> 00:42:35 balance. Just like you can't just take a breath
00:42:35 --> 00:42:37 in the morning and you hold your breath until
00:42:37 --> 00:42:40 at night. I mean, that's stupid. No one would
00:42:40 --> 00:42:44 think of doing that. So no one would think of
00:42:44 --> 00:42:46 putting all their food in the blender and eating
00:42:46 --> 00:42:50 in one go. So what's wrong with taking a few
00:42:50 --> 00:42:53 minutes? The other thing is to calm yourself.
00:42:53 --> 00:42:56 You don't need to do an hour's meditation every
00:42:56 --> 00:43:01 day. That's great. Most of us can't. Even if
00:43:01 --> 00:43:05 you use two, three, five minutes, you're sitting
00:43:05 --> 00:43:09 down quietly in between meetings, in between
00:43:09 --> 00:43:13 jobs, and just give yourself a sense of deep
00:43:13 --> 00:43:18 breaths. Just sit down. That is so important
00:43:18 --> 00:43:22 to contribute to this balancing of the brainwaves.
00:43:22 --> 00:43:27 So if the brain is feeling good, The brain is
00:43:27 --> 00:43:30 sending messages all over the place. Our muscles
00:43:30 --> 00:43:34 feel more relaxed. Our gut feels better. Our
00:43:34 --> 00:43:38 skin looks better. So the long and the short
00:43:38 --> 00:43:42 is eat several times a day. Look after yourself
00:43:42 --> 00:43:45 every day in the morning and the evening. Just
00:43:45 --> 00:43:48 like you go and have a shower and, you know,
00:43:48 --> 00:43:52 you cleanse yourself. Breathe normally and make
00:43:52 --> 00:43:57 some time for some. some thinking spots. Even
00:43:57 --> 00:43:59 if you're in the bus, you're sitting in the bus
00:43:59 --> 00:44:02 or in the train or you're a passenger in the
00:44:02 --> 00:44:06 car, you don't have to talk to everyone. You're
00:44:06 --> 00:44:08 just having a quiet time. It's very important
00:44:08 --> 00:44:15 to find the gaps, to love yourself because it
00:44:15 --> 00:44:19 is about self -love. It's about understanding
00:44:19 --> 00:44:22 that you've got to make the choice in everything
00:44:22 --> 00:44:25 we do. And if you don't look after yourself,
00:44:26 --> 00:44:30 then it's very much like your soul then decides,
00:44:30 --> 00:44:34 I don't like this body, I'm going. So then you
00:44:34 --> 00:44:38 die. Right. Thank you so much for Dr. Fadanda
00:44:38 --> 00:44:40 so wonderfully explaining that approach. You
00:44:40 --> 00:44:43 know, like what is important for us and for our
00:44:43 --> 00:44:46 health, for our mind, the nutrients, the ingredients
00:44:46 --> 00:44:50 and how to like take care of that. I really appreciate
00:44:50 --> 00:44:53 that. And I'm sure our audiences. I appreciate
00:44:53 --> 00:44:56 those tips. I wanted to talk to you a bit about,
00:44:56 --> 00:44:59 as we are talking about skin today, I wanted
00:44:59 --> 00:45:01 to ask you this question, if it's okay with you,
00:45:02 --> 00:45:05 like genetic makeup versus environmental exposure.
00:45:07 --> 00:45:10 What do you understand by both of these and which
00:45:10 --> 00:45:13 do you feel impacts our well -being the most?
00:45:14 --> 00:45:17 This is quite an interesting question and it's
00:45:17 --> 00:45:21 been changing in the last three decades. When
00:45:21 --> 00:45:26 we started looking at genes in the 70s and 80s,
00:45:26 --> 00:45:29 the thought prevailed that our genetics were
00:45:29 --> 00:45:34 the most important component of who we are. And
00:45:34 --> 00:45:36 ironically, there were plenty of studies at the
00:45:36 --> 00:45:40 time in psychology of nature versus nurture,
00:45:40 --> 00:45:43 which one influences you the most. And there's
00:45:43 --> 00:45:46 this sort of big conflictuous battles. People
00:45:46 --> 00:45:51 are very fixed in their positions. But what the
00:45:51 --> 00:45:55 Human Genome Project has shown, and then subsequent
00:45:55 --> 00:45:58 to the Human Genome Project, the fact that we
00:45:58 --> 00:46:01 have far fewer genes than we thought we had,
00:46:02 --> 00:46:08 and that we end up having a lot more cross -communication
00:46:08 --> 00:46:12 between the genes, and we have a lot of variants.
00:46:12 --> 00:46:16 What is the current thought nowadays is that
00:46:16 --> 00:46:22 The environment we live in can contribute as
00:46:22 --> 00:46:29 much as about 25 to 30 % of who we become. So
00:46:29 --> 00:46:35 the environment we're exposed in or to, we live,
00:46:35 --> 00:46:42 our lifestyle is able to change the genes that
00:46:42 --> 00:46:46 are expressed and how the genes are expressed.
00:46:46 --> 00:46:50 Now, this is done through, just talking a bit
00:46:50 --> 00:46:53 of chemistry, it's done through a process of
00:46:53 --> 00:46:57 what is called acetylation and deacetylation.
00:46:57 --> 00:47:00 So there are proteins that look after the genes
00:47:00 --> 00:47:04 in our chroma, and those proteins get tagged
00:47:04 --> 00:47:07 with certain groups. And if the groups are the
00:47:07 --> 00:47:11 acetyl groups, they become active, and they say,
00:47:11 --> 00:47:16 okay, then we are going to be... turning on gene
00:47:16 --> 00:47:20 XYZ. And if they were deacetylated, where those
00:47:20 --> 00:47:23 tags are cut off, we're going to switch these
00:47:23 --> 00:47:26 genes off. The interesting evidence nowadays
00:47:26 --> 00:47:31 is that some of those changes can actually be
00:47:31 --> 00:47:37 passed genetically. So the way we live our lives
00:47:37 --> 00:47:43 can actually be imparting consequences to future
00:47:43 --> 00:47:46 generations. Whereas we used to think that it
00:47:46 --> 00:47:50 was only the genes that came from our parents,
00:47:50 --> 00:47:54 from their parents, that are being passed. But
00:47:54 --> 00:47:59 it appears that there is a substantial component
00:47:59 --> 00:48:04 of changes in our genome. This is called epigenetics.
00:48:04 --> 00:48:08 So the environment is affecting, things are expressed.
00:48:08 --> 00:48:12 So it's not so much things in the genome, but
00:48:12 --> 00:48:15 it's how the... are expressed. Not every gene
00:48:15 --> 00:48:19 is active all the time in the same way. We have
00:48:19 --> 00:48:22 variants and the genes are made of little blocks
00:48:22 --> 00:48:27 and how these little blocks are combined to make
00:48:27 --> 00:48:31 whatever protein they're supposed to really can
00:48:31 --> 00:48:35 be affected by the environment. And if you recall,
00:48:35 --> 00:48:39 I'm sure our audience would have heard For many
00:48:39 --> 00:48:42 years, we talked about junk DNA. There's all
00:48:42 --> 00:48:45 this junk DNA that's not doing anything. Actually,
00:48:45 --> 00:48:48 the junk DNA is doing a lot of very good stuff.
00:48:48 --> 00:48:51 So they're actually regulatory components of
00:48:51 --> 00:48:57 the genes, and they impart the way in which a
00:48:57 --> 00:49:01 gene block set is put together that makes you
00:49:01 --> 00:49:06 who you are versus myself. For instance, in our
00:49:06 --> 00:49:09 case, The development of melanin, the melanin
00:49:09 --> 00:49:11 in your skin, the expression of the melanin in
00:49:11 --> 00:49:14 your skin is very different from mine because
00:49:14 --> 00:49:18 it's obviously being affected by the environment
00:49:18 --> 00:49:21 where people came from. If you come from zones
00:49:21 --> 00:49:26 that are predominantly more flooded with sunshine,
00:49:27 --> 00:49:30 it makes more sense to have more melanin. If
00:49:30 --> 00:49:34 you come from areas where sunshine is not so
00:49:34 --> 00:49:37 prevalent, then this... It's all less pigmented.
00:49:38 --> 00:49:41 And the reason is that because you have less
00:49:41 --> 00:49:45 sun, you also have less production of vitamin
00:49:45 --> 00:49:48 D. So you have to make sure you supplement your
00:49:48 --> 00:49:52 diet with vitamin D in those areas that have
00:49:52 --> 00:49:56 less sun. Whereas people that are in sunny areas
00:49:56 --> 00:49:59 don't have to worry about it. Let's put it this
00:49:59 --> 00:50:03 way. Maybe 50 % of who you are is part of your
00:50:03 --> 00:50:08 genetic makeup. As your grandparents, great -grandparents
00:50:08 --> 00:50:14 passed on to you. But at least 25 % to 30 % is
00:50:14 --> 00:50:18 modifiable. And I think this is what we have
00:50:18 --> 00:50:22 seen over the last five decades. In fact, there
00:50:22 --> 00:50:27 was a very interesting study that followed Dutch
00:50:27 --> 00:50:31 people during the war. They suffered immensely
00:50:31 --> 00:50:35 because... There wasn't enough food. When Holland
00:50:35 --> 00:50:39 was occupied by the Nazis, they restricted food
00:50:39 --> 00:50:44 intake so much that there was famine. The children
00:50:44 --> 00:50:49 of those that had famine still today have got
00:50:49 --> 00:50:54 mental issues and health issues that are not
00:50:54 --> 00:50:57 seen in other parts of the world. They were really
00:50:57 --> 00:51:02 attributed to that limited... calorific intake
00:51:02 --> 00:51:07 during the war because of famine. Very interesting.
00:51:07 --> 00:51:11 I didn't know that. And that's 70 years ago.
00:51:11 --> 00:51:16 Not just physiological. These are mental issues.
00:51:16 --> 00:51:19 There are particular types of mental health issues
00:51:19 --> 00:51:24 associated with those that we're subjected to
00:51:24 --> 00:51:30 those horrible scenarios. Thank you so much,
00:51:30 --> 00:51:33 Dr. Fernanda, for explaining for the benefit
00:51:33 --> 00:51:36 of our audience what is like genetic makeup and
00:51:36 --> 00:51:39 how both that but also environmental exposure
00:51:39 --> 00:51:43 actually affects someone's well -being. I want
00:51:43 --> 00:51:47 to ask you one question for my own interest.
00:51:47 --> 00:51:49 You talked a bit about melanin on the skin. Many
00:51:49 --> 00:51:52 people I have seen are interested to know, does
00:51:52 --> 00:51:55 having more melanin under the skin is beneficial
00:51:55 --> 00:52:01 for someone? Well, it's an interesting question.
00:52:01 --> 00:52:05 You know, I don't think it's a case of being
00:52:05 --> 00:52:10 beneficial or detrimental. It's just different.
00:52:11 --> 00:52:16 So as you know, everyone is just slightly different.
00:52:16 --> 00:52:19 Let's see if I can explain this in a simple way.
00:52:19 --> 00:52:25 You and I have genetically, we have the same
00:52:25 --> 00:52:30 number of melanin cells in our skin. Number is
00:52:30 --> 00:52:33 the same. But people like you, because you're
00:52:33 --> 00:52:38 slightly darker than I am, means that your cells
00:52:38 --> 00:52:44 are producing more melanin more regularly. Oh,
00:52:44 --> 00:52:48 okay. We all have the same number of melanin
00:52:48 --> 00:52:51 cells. So it doesn't mean that you have an extra
00:52:51 --> 00:52:54 layer with melanin. Your cells are just producing
00:52:54 --> 00:52:58 them in more concentration and more frequently.
00:52:59 --> 00:53:03 In my case, if I'm exposed a lot to the sun,
00:53:03 --> 00:53:08 I become darker. So my cells kick in. But in
00:53:08 --> 00:53:14 your case, your cells are on at a higher level.
00:53:15 --> 00:53:19 It's not detrimental. And I don't think it's
00:53:19 --> 00:53:22 a case of being beneficial. It's just the way
00:53:22 --> 00:53:26 it is. We're just different. Just like some people
00:53:26 --> 00:53:30 have got dark hair, others have got a light hair.
00:53:30 --> 00:53:33 Some people have got curly hair and others have
00:53:33 --> 00:53:37 straight hair. So it's variations. It's quite
00:53:37 --> 00:53:40 interesting that many years ago, this was when
00:53:40 --> 00:53:43 I was a kid. So I'm 67. So this is going back
00:53:43 --> 00:53:47 way, way back. When I went to primary school,
00:53:47 --> 00:53:52 we used to have a very clear concept of races,
00:53:52 --> 00:53:58 you know, sort of. black person and sort of Indian
00:53:58 --> 00:54:02 people and Eskimos. Everyone was put into races.
00:54:02 --> 00:54:06 Do you know that the genetic codes, the genetic
00:54:06 --> 00:54:10 program sort of showed something that there is
00:54:10 --> 00:54:14 no such thing as races. Races are created by
00:54:14 --> 00:54:20 people. We're all the same. We are just different
00:54:20 --> 00:54:24 forms of each other. So you have, like me, you
00:54:24 --> 00:54:28 have 29 genes. That's what we have. We thought
00:54:28 --> 00:54:31 we had more, but we don't. 29 genes is what
00:54:31 --> 00:54:35 humans have. But the genes of a black person
00:54:35 --> 00:54:39 versus the genes of an Indian person versus the
00:54:39 --> 00:54:42 genes of an Aborigine, they're all the same.
00:54:43 --> 00:54:45 It's just they are being expressed differently.
00:54:46 --> 00:54:51 And the expression is purely. a variation so
00:54:51 --> 00:54:56 we all shades of the same thing there's no races
00:54:56 --> 00:55:01 there are no races we are just shades of the
00:55:01 --> 00:55:04 same thing it's very helpful to know because
00:55:04 --> 00:55:07 i have often encountered this question that's
00:55:07 --> 00:55:12 good um so good it is good because obviously
00:55:12 --> 00:55:15 if you leave If you come from an area that you
00:55:15 --> 00:55:17 are in the tropical areas, you know, you are
00:55:17 --> 00:55:20 exposed. Of course, you work in the fields. You
00:55:20 --> 00:55:24 need to be protected. Absolutely. Because otherwise
00:55:24 --> 00:55:28 the damage of the sun underneath your skin is
00:55:28 --> 00:55:31 not going to be pretty. So you need to be protected.
00:55:32 --> 00:55:35 But it's just, it's very interesting that we
00:55:35 --> 00:55:39 all have the same number of cells. Yours are
00:55:39 --> 00:55:42 just more active than mine. Thank you for explaining
00:55:42 --> 00:55:45 that. I appreciate it, Dr. Fernanda. I'm sorry,
00:55:45 --> 00:55:47 we're getting into some lengthy conversations,
00:55:47 --> 00:55:50 but I'm sure our audiences definitely will find
00:55:50 --> 00:55:54 this helpful. So this is an era, we say, of anti
00:55:54 --> 00:55:59 -aging technology. And we use all kinds of anti
00:55:59 --> 00:56:02 -aging products to look better compared to what
00:56:02 --> 00:56:05 your age is. So that's the effort of many out
00:56:05 --> 00:56:10 there. I wanted to ask you, why do we age? Even
00:56:10 --> 00:56:14 if we are using the latest anti -aging technology
00:56:14 --> 00:56:18 or products using these technologies. Okay. Well,
00:56:18 --> 00:56:23 we've got this subject is enough for about 100
00:56:23 --> 00:56:30 podcasts. So when you have a sperm and when you
00:56:30 --> 00:56:33 have an ovum, at that point when the sperm and
00:56:33 --> 00:56:37 the ovum are being produced by our testicles
00:56:37 --> 00:56:43 or by our ovaries, at that point, there is a
00:56:43 --> 00:56:48 series of processes, mechanisms that prevent
00:56:48 --> 00:56:52 aging from happening. So there are a number of
00:56:52 --> 00:56:56 pathways linked to aging and the ovum don't have
00:56:56 --> 00:56:59 them. They switched off. And they are switched
00:56:59 --> 00:57:05 off until the egg is made. So when the sperm
00:57:05 --> 00:57:10 enters the ovum and forms an egg, fertilization
00:57:10 --> 00:57:15 is successful. At that point, the anti -aging
00:57:15 --> 00:57:23 process is now stopped. And what we call growing
00:57:23 --> 00:57:28 is actually aging. So you're only not aging until
00:57:28 --> 00:57:32 the sperm and the ovum get together. From the
00:57:32 --> 00:57:37 time the baby or the embryo is implanted, it's
00:57:37 --> 00:57:42 aging. So it's not that we, you know, and you
00:57:42 --> 00:57:46 say, oh, but kids aren't aging. They are growing.
00:57:46 --> 00:57:50 They are maturing. So as we progress in our lives,
00:57:50 --> 00:57:54 of course, we develop, we evolve. While we are,
00:57:54 --> 00:57:58 you know, in your age group, we say that we're
00:57:58 --> 00:58:01 still young. In my age group, we say that we
00:58:01 --> 00:58:05 are old. It's just a process of evolution. But
00:58:05 --> 00:58:12 what is interesting, it seems like… aging or
00:58:12 --> 00:58:15 the process of what we call aging is developed
00:58:15 --> 00:58:21 for a specific advantageous process. If you don't
00:58:21 --> 00:58:27 kick in these processes that lead to aging, that
00:58:27 --> 00:58:30 lead to the cells being less and less active
00:58:30 --> 00:58:34 and not looking as good as they are, the organs
00:58:34 --> 00:58:38 functioning less and less, if we don't have those
00:58:38 --> 00:58:43 processes, the chances of malignancies increase
00:58:43 --> 00:58:49 substantially. So ironically, aging is a form
00:58:49 --> 00:58:54 of preventing malignancies, because malignancies
00:58:54 --> 00:58:59 would be out of control growth, which eventually
00:58:59 --> 00:59:04 will lead to death. So aging is a regulated mechanism
00:59:04 --> 00:59:11 to keep you healthy. So if you look at aging
00:59:11 --> 00:59:16 that way, then aging is not so bad. And as you
00:59:16 --> 00:59:20 know, there are plenty of young people that die
00:59:20 --> 00:59:26 with malignancies quite young. That is, in their
00:59:26 --> 00:59:31 case, the regulatory malignant process went out
00:59:31 --> 00:59:37 of control so extensively that it overtook the
00:59:37 --> 00:59:43 advantages. Of having regulated aging, slowing
00:59:43 --> 00:59:47 down process. And there are plenty of groups,
00:59:48 --> 00:59:53 research groups, experimenting on the extending
00:59:53 --> 00:59:58 of life. And they do this in animal models. And
00:59:58 --> 01:00:00 I'm not going to go into details here because
01:00:00 --> 01:00:02 it would take too long to explain it. But they
01:00:02 --> 01:00:04 have these animal models and sometimes they show
01:00:04 --> 01:00:09 that they can increase. the lifespan by about
01:00:09 --> 01:00:15 30 % to 50 % in these animal models that are
01:00:15 --> 01:00:22 very small animals. What happens often with those
01:00:22 --> 01:00:27 animal models is that although the lifespan is
01:00:27 --> 01:00:33 increased, sometimes there is evidence that the
01:00:33 --> 01:00:38 lifestyle of the animals is not as good as it
01:00:38 --> 01:00:42 was. So yes, you can increase lifespan, but maybe
01:00:42 --> 01:00:46 you won't be having as good lifestyle as you've
01:00:46 --> 01:00:50 had before. Now there are people that naturally
01:00:50 --> 01:00:55 live for a long time. And I mean, in India and
01:00:55 --> 01:00:57 Bangladesh, I'm sure they all know people that
01:00:57 --> 01:01:00 are very old, like over a hundred years old.
01:01:02 --> 01:01:05 In Italy, and there are some people, I think
01:01:05 --> 01:01:10 it was Albania, 125 years old or some gross age.
01:01:10 --> 01:01:15 So there are people that can live longer, but
01:01:15 --> 01:01:21 also people that have a very balanced lifestyle.
01:01:21 --> 01:01:27 So if you have a very intense lifestyle, you
01:01:27 --> 01:01:31 are going to be using so much more energy. that
01:01:31 --> 01:01:35 you are going to be limiting the potential for
01:01:35 --> 01:01:40 living very long. Oh, okay. And the thing is,
01:01:40 --> 01:01:46 if you want to live longer looking good, you
01:01:46 --> 01:01:49 have to look after yourself. So I don't mean
01:01:49 --> 01:01:52 to say you need to be a saint, not at all, but
01:01:52 --> 01:01:54 you need to have a balanced diet. You need to
01:01:54 --> 01:01:57 have good nutrition. You have to have good sleep.
01:01:58 --> 01:02:00 You have to make sure you look after yourself
01:02:00 --> 01:02:05 properly every day. Look after your skin every
01:02:05 --> 01:02:08 day. If you say, oh, you know, I'll just get
01:02:08 --> 01:02:11 Botox. Well, actually, Botox is not doing anything
01:02:11 --> 01:02:15 to your skin. Botox is just paralyzing the muscles
01:02:15 --> 01:02:18 under your skin. So, you know, you don't have
01:02:18 --> 01:02:21 wrinkles. But if you have Botox and you still
01:02:21 --> 01:02:25 don't use any cream on your skin, your skin will
01:02:25 --> 01:02:28 still age, will get thinner. And you'll still
01:02:28 --> 01:02:31 have the manifestations that it will normally
01:02:31 --> 01:02:39 have. So, yeah, we age because I don't think
01:02:39 --> 01:02:45 biologically anything is ever made to live forever.
01:02:45 --> 01:02:50 But there's always balances. And it's all about
01:02:50 --> 01:02:52 the regulation. It's all about the regulation
01:02:52 --> 01:02:56 in the genes of those. areas that we're non -coding
01:02:56 --> 01:03:00 that with the junk dna there's a lot of role
01:03:00 --> 01:03:06 in there but the main message is if we don't
01:03:06 --> 01:03:10 have an aging process to stop this overwhelming
01:03:10 --> 01:03:15 a replication to get new cells all the time we
01:03:15 --> 01:03:18 don't have a way to control malignancies it's
01:03:18 --> 01:03:20 a balance between the two comes back to this
01:03:20 --> 01:03:24 balance Thank you so much, Dr. Fernanda, for
01:03:24 --> 01:03:27 explaining that. Really helpful. And I think
01:03:27 --> 01:03:32 a lot of food for thought. And for many audiences,
01:03:32 --> 01:03:34 they have questions about how the anti -aging
01:03:34 --> 01:03:37 process works or how that actually benefits our
01:03:37 --> 01:03:41 skin or when we should use that. I think some
01:03:41 --> 01:03:43 of those questions you got answers by listening
01:03:43 --> 01:03:47 to what Dr. Fernanda mentioned. If I can just
01:03:47 --> 01:03:52 add something here on anti -aging. We can have
01:03:52 --> 01:03:57 products that will ensure that there's some antioxidants
01:03:57 --> 01:04:03 in our skin to protect our skin. But nowadays,
01:04:03 --> 01:04:06 what's technologically happening is that you
01:04:06 --> 01:04:10 see products with gold encapsulating molecules
01:04:10 --> 01:04:13 to protect the molecules to get to the target
01:04:13 --> 01:04:18 cells to prevent collagen being degraded or elastin.
01:04:18 --> 01:04:23 Look, at the end of the day, you are going to
01:04:23 --> 01:04:28 have some form of aging, healthier, to use natural
01:04:28 --> 01:04:32 ingredients, do what you can to look after yourself.
01:04:32 --> 01:04:35 If you add these technologically more sophisticated
01:04:35 --> 01:04:39 components, once they are in your skin, they
01:04:39 --> 01:04:42 have to go somewhere and they get cleared into
01:04:42 --> 01:04:46 your liver or into your kidneys and sometimes
01:04:46 --> 01:04:49 to your reproductive organs because there are
01:04:49 --> 01:04:53 molecules that... stick around. What we don't
01:04:53 --> 01:04:57 know is the long -term impact of having these
01:04:57 --> 01:05:03 extra molecules in our body. So I think it makes
01:05:03 --> 01:05:07 more sense to actually love the fact that, look,
01:05:07 --> 01:05:10 appreciate the fact that if you got to 60, that's
01:05:10 --> 01:05:15 great. Be as good as you can looking 60. You
01:05:15 --> 01:05:18 can't possibly be 60 and look like 20. It just
01:05:18 --> 01:05:21 doesn't look right. It's a privilege to get to
01:05:21 --> 01:05:25 60, you know, because think about that. I always
01:05:25 --> 01:05:27 think of this, of the sort of, there's a very
01:05:27 --> 01:05:32 important saying around the young man that died
01:05:32 --> 01:05:37 in the first world war. When you celebrate Anzac
01:05:37 --> 01:05:40 Day in New Zealand, it's a very heavy day for
01:05:40 --> 01:05:43 New Zealand, Australia, being a young man in
01:05:43 --> 01:05:47 1914. went to fight in the First World War thinking
01:05:47 --> 01:05:51 that it was an adventure. The way people remember
01:05:51 --> 01:05:56 those men that never came back is they shall
01:05:56 --> 01:06:01 not die old. So they will die young because they
01:06:01 --> 01:06:05 will be mauled by war. So it's a privilege to
01:06:05 --> 01:06:10 be old because you didn't die young. Oh, okay.
01:06:11 --> 01:06:15 And that's, you know, think of... Everyone young
01:06:15 --> 01:06:20 is beautiful. I think beauty is something that
01:06:20 --> 01:06:24 you need to change in your mindset. There's beauty
01:06:24 --> 01:06:27 about everything. An old tree is beautiful, just
01:06:27 --> 01:06:31 like a young tree is beautiful. A young kid is
01:06:31 --> 01:06:34 beautiful, but an old person is beautiful as
01:06:34 --> 01:06:36 well. Look at the way in which an old person
01:06:36 --> 01:06:39 talks to you and shows you things that you didn't
01:06:39 --> 01:06:43 know. So it's not about a physical beauty, but
01:06:43 --> 01:06:47 it's about an ethereal beauty that is part of
01:06:47 --> 01:06:51 who we are. Who are we to say that someone with
01:06:51 --> 01:06:55 a Japanese -looking feature is more beautiful
01:06:55 --> 01:06:58 than one with an Indian -looking feature? They're
01:06:58 --> 01:07:01 all beautiful. They're just different. They're
01:07:01 --> 01:07:05 just different forms of the same. It's how people
01:07:05 --> 01:07:09 smile. When people smile, We can see the soul
01:07:09 --> 01:07:12 in their smile. And that's what beauty is about.
01:07:12 --> 01:07:18 Take cognizance that beauty is everything. Everything
01:07:18 --> 01:07:21 is beautiful, even ugly things. Why do we call
01:07:21 --> 01:07:24 them ugly? They're important. And if it's important
01:07:24 --> 01:07:27 for you, but not for somebody else, there's nothing
01:07:27 --> 01:07:31 wrong with that. Why do you feel that you have
01:07:31 --> 01:07:38 to agree with everyone? Do something that makes
01:07:38 --> 01:07:41 you feel good. If we all did that, there would
01:07:41 --> 01:07:45 be no wars. For sure. I completely agree with
01:07:45 --> 01:07:50 you that for oneself to feel beautiful for how
01:07:50 --> 01:07:53 they are and how they look, how they represent
01:07:53 --> 01:07:56 themselves, everyone is beautiful. There is not
01:07:56 --> 01:08:00 a finite process to determine who is beautiful
01:08:00 --> 01:08:02 or who is not, just based on the appearances,
01:08:02 --> 01:08:06 the look or their skin, right? Yeah, absolutely.
01:08:07 --> 01:08:10 The skin is the thing we see the first, of course.
01:08:11 --> 01:08:16 But for goodness sake, we've got a brain that
01:08:16 --> 01:08:20 gives us the ability to see things, to think.
01:08:20 --> 01:08:24 So shouldn't we be looking at people beyond the
01:08:24 --> 01:08:29 skin? If we don't do that, we're just so limited.
01:08:29 --> 01:08:33 Don't limit yourself. Open yourself to who the
01:08:33 --> 01:08:37 person is. For sure. For sure. Dr. Faranda, I
01:08:37 --> 01:08:41 feel like I have so many wonderful questions
01:08:41 --> 01:08:45 left, but we're already at the mark of over an
01:08:45 --> 01:08:47 hour. No, look, we can always talk again some
01:08:47 --> 01:08:50 other time. And the other thing is, if your listeners
01:08:50 --> 01:08:53 have specific questions that you would like to
01:08:53 --> 01:08:57 talk about, email me and then we can do it some
01:08:57 --> 01:09:00 other time. I would really love. Dr. Fernanda,
01:09:00 --> 01:09:02 because I still have some wonderful questions
01:09:02 --> 01:09:05 to ask you. If we could do another part two of
01:09:05 --> 01:09:08 this episode, that would be wonderful and really
01:09:08 --> 01:09:10 appreciative of that, Dr. Fernanda. So dear listeners,
01:09:11 --> 01:09:15 we still have to learn a bit more about health,
01:09:15 --> 01:09:16 lifestyle, and I have some wonderful questions
01:09:16 --> 01:09:20 about how mental health and environment is really
01:09:20 --> 01:09:23 impactful for your own lifestyle and health.
01:09:23 --> 01:09:27 I do encourage you, dear listeners, if you have
01:09:27 --> 01:09:31 any questions, if you have any concerns anything
01:09:31 --> 01:09:33 specific you would like to know please reach
01:09:33 --> 01:09:37 out to dr fernanda you can do that by going to
01:09:37 --> 01:09:41 our website www .activeaction .fm and just search
01:09:41 --> 01:09:45 dr fernanda's name and you will see there is
01:09:45 --> 01:09:50 a web page over there that contains all her social
01:09:50 --> 01:09:53 links or the ways you can contact her and i really
01:09:53 --> 01:09:56 wanted to talk to you dr fernanda about the azure
01:09:56 --> 01:09:59 list because i think Our listeners would really
01:09:59 --> 01:10:01 be interested in knowing that some amazing work
01:10:01 --> 01:10:05 that you do. But if it's okay with you, I would
01:10:05 --> 01:10:07 like to keep that for our. Well, absolutely.
01:10:08 --> 01:10:11 Absolutely. No problem at all. As I said in,
01:10:11 --> 01:10:15 you know, as I say in our website, we don't sell
01:10:15 --> 01:10:19 you skin care. We care for your skin. It's wonderful
01:10:19 --> 01:10:22 because I did visit your website and I have seen
01:10:22 --> 01:10:24 the work that you have done. It's wonderful.
01:10:24 --> 01:10:27 And I really. I'm certain that our listeners
01:10:27 --> 01:10:30 would really try out some of those products and
01:10:30 --> 01:10:33 get to know more about that. But in the meantime,
01:10:33 --> 01:10:36 dear listeners, if you do want to check out the
01:10:36 --> 01:10:41 website, www .azurlis .co .nz. For our listeners
01:10:41 --> 01:10:44 who are hearing that in the audio episode, it's
01:10:44 --> 01:10:53 www .azurlis .co .nz. Dr. Fernanda, thank you
01:10:53 --> 01:10:56 again for joining this podcast. And I'll talk
01:10:56 --> 01:10:59 to you very soon. Thank you, Dr. Nazif. Thank
01:10:59 --> 01:11:02 you, everyone, for listening. It's been a pleasure
01:11:02 --> 01:11:06 to be here. Goodbye. Take care, everyone. Stay
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